Hi Nancy, I do have Sao Jorge ancestry which is my Mothers (Gertrude J Joseph) Mother (Marie G. Holmes) side of the family which is one of my brick walls. I do not know the town they came from in Sao Jorge. The other mystery is My Grandmothers (Marie Holmes) real Father we think was Frank Holmes (Homen) but he died we think before her mother married Premo Souza. My Grandmother (Marie) told me we were related to the Souza's but she did not put him down as her father and neither did her brothers. We know that when they came to this country she listed her name on her naturalization papers as Marie Holmes Souza. So we think her mother and step father married in the Azores when she was about 2 yrs old. My Grandmother did not tell me very much about her family either how Frank Holmes died or when. I am hoping the church in Hanford. St Bridgets will call me in about a week with info on if the church marriage records list the name of the town they came from. Keep your fingers crossed. So far all my research does not give the name of the town they came from. Also all her brothers put on all their documents they were born in California and they never filled out any naturalization papers. She was the only one who put she was born in the Azores. Well I will send you an invitation to Ancestry.com for my Tree. Let me know if you have any questions. Vivian (Silva) Christy
________________________________ From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> To: azores group <azores@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes Hi Vivian, Please, I'd like to see your tree. I didn't notice a gedcom on FTDNA. Do you have Sao Jorge ancestry as well as Pico? Thanks, Nancy Jean ________________________________ Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:01:31 -0700 From: vchris1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Nancy, I have the records for Lajes do Pico. In the Minho records on line I found both my Mothers father and my Fathers mother's families lived near to each other and they have relatives all the way back to the 1700's I think. I also found my fathers Mother's birth record and her fathers birth record. So I can give you access to my family tree online at Ancestry.com you may find some relatives we have in common. Let me know if you would like me to do that. Thanks, Vivian ________________________________ From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> To: azores group <azores@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes Hi Vivian, Glad to know you're there to explain Frank and his brother Robert's family history a bit. I noticed the you and the Holmes brothers are both a match to me. However, you are a match to my Uncle John Baptiste and the Holmes are not his match. I think the Holmes are matching on my mom's Sao Jorge people who they have some surnames in common with and you are matching Uncle John's Pico people and I can be matching both your Pico and Sao Jorge lines. We share many surnames. Nancy Jean ________________________________ -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes >From: Vivian Christy <vchris1...@yahoo.com> >Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 7:44 pm >To: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com> > > >Hello Doug and Nancy, > >Frank Patrick Holmes is my cousin and I do all the genealogy for our family. >So I will check out his matches. The thing is I do not know where his great >grandfather who is also Frank Peter Holmes (Homen) was born or died except >that it was the Sao Jorge Island. That is the brick wall in our genealogy. >When I check out the matches and your tree I will see if we have any that >could be relatives. I wish I would have been able to get the copy of the >Marriage record from the church in Hanford where my Grandmother Marie G. >Holmes and grandfather Manuel Joseph were married. But I probably will have >to go there my self to see if I can get the record. So I have not found the >town yet. Thank you. Vivian (Silva) Christy > >researching: Silva, Machado, Silveria, Veira, Holmes, Homen, Enos, Jose, >Souza, and many more. In Lajes do Pico and Sao Jorge, Tereica, and Faial. > > > >________________________________ > From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> >To: Doug da Rocha Holmes <p...@dholmes.com>; azores group ><azores@googlegroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:57 AM >Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Frank Patrick Holmes > > > > >A correction to my earlier post.....Frank Holmes....we match many names on Sao >Jorge. > >Nancy Jean > > > >________________________________ >From: p...@dholmes.com >To: fishsongf...@hotmail.com >Subject: Frank Patrick Holmes >Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 08:48:11 -0700 > >Hi Nancy, > > >I think someone once mentioned Frank Holmes to me, but I didn't realize he has >Pico ancestors. >Can you identify the one who immigrated from there? > > >I don't show him as a link, but if he connects to Judy's relative, and I >connect to her, maybe there is still a remote link between us that DNA doesn't >show. > > >Was his Holmes name originally Homem, like mine? Or does he have English >ancestry? > > > >Doug da Rocha Holmes >Sacramento, California >Pico & Terceira Genealogist >916-550-1618 >http://www.dholmes.com/ > > > >-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Chromosome Browser for Family Finder DNA >>results >>From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> >>Date: Thu, May 09, 2013 7:51 am >>To: azores group <azores@googlegroups.com> >> >> >>With Frank Patrick Holmes 49.55 and 31.64...ftdna predicts 3rd cousin. We >>share many of the same names on Pico. >> -- > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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