Hi Doug, Yes, it seems many nicks may have not been capturered or dropped if seen as pejorative. With families of certain status it would have been kept from mouth to mouth.
Where I was raised everyone had a nick...lucky for me our family name was so unusual they didn't need a qualifier ;) Cheers, Margaret On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > That's the best definition of an alcunha I've seen. > > My grandfather from Terceira was said to have the alcunha "cebola branca" > (white onion) referring to his blonde hair. And I believe his father had > the same alcunha. But I have never seen it mentioned in any records, so > it's strictly passed down by word of mouth. > > Thanks, > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname > From: Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, June 08, 2013 5:55 am > To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> > > Hi, > > There's no correlation in between the words maiato and mulato. A further > search in google turned up a referential work by the the Minho University. > The name is described as an alcunha/nick toponymic of or from the place > of MAIA. > > "Maiato MF Proveniente da Maia" > Link: > http://repositorium.sdum.uminho.pt/bitstream/1822/6934/1/Alcunh.pdf > > Reference: > Citação deste texto publicado: > Teixeira, José, 2007, “Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência > por alcunhas do > Norte de Portugal”, Diacrítica Série Ciências da Linguagem, nº 21/1, > Universidade do > Minho, Braga, pp. 207-239. > Metonímias e metáforas > no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal > José Teixeira > ILCH - Universidade do Minho > jsteixe...@ilch.uminho.pt > > Abstract > The Portuguese word “alcunha” means a non-voluntary nickname, sometimes > with > pejorative meaning and usually used in small localities. The main purpose > of this kind of > nicknames is to capture a detail that makes possible a quick > identification, in other words, to > stress a salient characteristic conducting to an easy referring process. > In this way, the nickname’s social-linguistic strategy can show us the > relevance of > metaphor and, above all, of metonymy as cognitive processes with a great > variation of > linguistic strategies and forms. > > Margaret > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:09 AM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: > >> I forgot to look at Guill's list. My copy is buried somewhere in a box I >> have not brought back into daylight since moving. But that's very >> interesting. But the other name, Malato, is then what must be questioned. >> Yea, it sure sounds similar to "mulato" and that would surely be an alcunha >> imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. >> Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin. >> >> I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira >> named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei >> João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to have descendants in Terceira. >> Maybe there is some linguistic explanation for how Maia could become >> Maiato. But that neglects the Malato derivation information from Guill. >> >> Thanks to the others who mention ancestors and friends with this name. >> It is far more common than I suspected - just not on Pico or Terceira! >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> www.dholmes.com >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname >> From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> >> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 9:59 pm >> To: <azores@googlegroups.com> >> >> *Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation >> as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could >> have started as an alcunha.* >> * * >> *Rick* >> * * >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> *Spring, TX* >> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * >> * * >> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and >> Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* >> * * >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<azores@googlegroups.com>] >> *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente >> *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PM >> *To:* azores >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname**** >> ** ** >> Hey there Doug,**** >> ** ** >> Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who >> bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. **** >> ** ** >> Regards**** >> ** ** >> Margaret**** >> ** ** >> ** ** >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote:**** >> I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and >> sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I >> visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I >> thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in >> the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more.**** >> ** ** >> I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a >> lady named MAIATO.**** >> I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since >> it's a name on Pico that I know so well.**** >> But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time.**** >> ** ** >> I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao >> Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I >> detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family >> that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese.**** >> ** ** >> Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the >> populations for each village and island.**** >> It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling >> in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, >> etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few >> centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there >> are many others who came but left little mark.**** >> ** ** >> And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively >> rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems >> to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha?**** >> ** ** >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> 916-550-1618**** >> www.dholmes.com**** >> -- >> >> -- >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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