Joao C. Ventura said: <<They're not inconsistent. The problem is yours, actually: you're confusing the church parish with the freguesia civil (translated roughly as civil parish). The CCA site uses the official name of the freguesia.. Which in most cases, as they were created in 1911 as one-to-one mapping of the church parishes, used the same name of the catholic parish.. In some cases not, as in this Matriz / São Sebastião case.>>
OK, let me try to straighten myself out. If I'm not doing this right, then feel free to straighten me out! :) They are calling some of these places "Matriz." Santa Maria island (only 1): Vila do Porto The Matriz is Nossa Senhora da Assuncao in Vila do Porto. CCA not up yet. Sao Miguel island (6 Matriz') Lagoa The Matriz is Santa Cruz in Lagoa. The CCA listing says Matriz de Santa Cruz Nordeste The Matriz is Sao Jorge in Nordeste The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Ponta Delgada The Matriz is Sao Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada The CCA listing says Matriz de Sao Sebastiao Povoacao The Matriz is Nossa Senhora Mae de Deus in Povoacao The CCA listing says Matriz de Mae de Deus Ribeira Grande The Matriz is Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira Grande CCA not up yet. Vila Franca do Campo The Matriz is Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca do Campo CCA not up yet. Terceira island (2 Matriz') Angra do Heroismo Santa Se do Salvador or Sao Salvador which is really the Diocese seat in Angra do Heroismo. So I guess technically there is no Matriz here. The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz or a Diocese or a cathedral. Praia da Vitoria The Matriz is Santa Cruz in Praia da Vitoria The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Graciosa island (only 1) The Matriz is Santa Cruz in Santa Cruz CCA not up yet Sao Jorge island (2 Matriz') Calheta The Matriz Santa Catarina in Calheta. The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Velas The Matriz is Sao Jorge in Velas The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Faial island (1 Matriz) The Matriz is Sao Salvador in Horta The CCA listing says Matriz da Horta Pico island (3 Matriz') Lajes (do Pico) The Matriz is Santissima Trindade in Lajes The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Madalena The Matriz is Santa Maria Madalena in Madalena The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Sao Roque The Matriz is Sao Roque in Sao Roque The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Flores island (2 Matriz') Lajes (do Flores) The Matriz is Nossa Senhora do Rosario in Lajes The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Santa Cruz (das Flores) The Matriz is Nossa Senhora da Conceicao in Santa Cruz The CCA listing says nothing about a Matriz Corvo island There's only 1 church there. Nossa Senhora dos Milagres in Vila Nova. I don't think it holds Matriz status. The CCA says nothing about it either. OK, so why does the CCA list Lagoa, Ponta Delgada, Povoacao, and Faial under "M" for Matriz but then lists Nordeste (Sao Jorge), Angra (Sao Salvador), Praia (Santa Cruz), Calheta (Santa Catarina), Velas (Sao Jorge), Lajes do Pico (Santissima Trindade), Santa Maria Madalena, Sao Roque (both on Pico), and N.S. do Rosario and N.S. da Conceicao (both on Flores) under the names instead of Matriz? OK, where am I confused? Straighten me out here :) To me, it looks like the CCA is confused. Well, I know that they are not. This project had been under different directors so the uploading of the records may have changed with the directors. If most concelhos have a Matriz, why aren't they putting those as Matriz de _____ on all the concelhos that have an official Matriz? Or putting the name (whether civil or ecclesiastical - but I think they use civil). Technically, isn't "Matriz" an ecclesiastical thing? Thanks! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.