Hi Bill, Yes, this is what annoys me about the "Great Paywall of Ancestry.com". There was recent discussion here in the group about a public library-sponsored research that's going into Ancestry.com, and nobody flinched at the fact that all this content will be "offered" to them for resale to other members.
I'm not and will probably never will be their client. A word to all of you that are. Try using mundia.com. You may find that a lot of what you're paying for to access other's research is actually available for free. João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Monday, 20 January 2014 22:56:51 UTC+1, want2beunique wrote: > > Pam, > > Yes, it comes and goes. For a time, recently, I could view my ancestry > sourced records. I thought, "wow, they are finally getting a clue!". > Then, about two weeks ago, it stopped working again. They are very > inconsistent. If I pay to access records, they should remain open to me > through their interface. > > The one that really gets me is that they charge for access to member > posted content. I recently found the probate records for my great great > grandfather (he died intestate). This has been key since we have no other > records indicating his death. The final settlement includes all living > children and the children of those that had already passed (if they had > heirs). A real boon for researchers! In any case, the records came from > FamilySearch and were free. They were NOT indexed and it took me a while > of cross referencing to find them (I'm still missing one inventory, but > that's another story). So, I post this to Ancestry.com. Anybody who wants > to add these records MUST be a paying subscriber. In effect, Ancestry is > reselling my work. My results will show up in searches for "William Hardin > Hickman", but they must pay to see my translation and attach the record. > This really burns me! Not only do I not get access to other records, but I > must pay to collaborate with other researchers on Ancestry. Makes me mad > enough to take my tree private! I really need to find an easy way to post > my full tree, with records, for public consumption. > > Sorry, I get a bit hot about Ancestry.com even though I'm a user. > > Bill > > > > On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:41 PM, Pam Santos > <pamsa...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > They must of changed it because before you could view it. But doesn't > matter as long as you merge the document (census) to you family tree maker > you can always view it. But still they shouldn't restrict you from viewing > something that you paid for when you were subscribed. > > * This is a big one! If you don't have a subscription with Ancestry, they > will not let you view records you have ALREADY attached. This bugs me to no > end! They will, however, continue to sell your pictures and records to > only subscribers. So, the sync with FTM gives you access to your Ancestry > records when not subscribed. > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Bill Boyd <want2b...@yahoo.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > > I use both Ancestry and Family Tree Maker. Cheri is correct for the > overall, but there are some things to be aware of: > > * The sync doesn't get everything on ancestry. For example, all of the > data associated with documents and headstones does not come down to FTM. If > I have text in the translation field on ancestry, it never appears in FTM. > > * Things change more frequently in the cloud (Ancestry). They are very > regularly trying new things. Some things disappear completely. For example, > I spent a lot of time tagging faces in pictures only to have the feature, > and data, disappear. Better to just describe in notes. > > * They are constantly breaking the sync feature. This generally corrupts > the FTM file. I don't mind as much since my "master" is always the cloud > copy. > > * As Cheri states, I like "owning" the data. Should Ancestry disappear or > crash, I can continue (with diminished data). Also, I periodically let my > subscription expire and turn to free services. It forces me to look > elsewhere for a time. I find newspapers and browsing images on familysearch > very worthwhile. > > * This is a big one! If you don't have a subscription with Ancestry, they > will not let you view records you have ALREADY attached. This bugs me to no > end! They will, however, continue to sell your pictures and records to > only subscribers. So, the sync with FTM gives you access to your Ancestry > records when not subscribed. > > * Try the different Ancestry access points (web, iPhone, Android) every > now and then. They often screw up security on upgrades and provide free > record access for a time. Also, the iPhone (right now) allows individual > record purchases for $1.99. Not cheap, butter better than paying for a > month for 1 or 2 records. > > * Some records are FREE no matter you subscription status. No, Ancestry > does not make it obvious which records! Anything from the 1940 census, > find a grave, billion graves, and many others, are always free. You'll have > to develop a list. If you select a premium record, just back up from the > prompt to subscribe. > > Good luck! > > Regards, > > Bill > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > On Ancestry, you can keep your genealogy in the cloud, on their servers. > With Family Tree Maker, you will have your own genealogy software on your > computer (back it up yourself). It has a lot more bells and whistles than > Ancestry. 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