Hi Marilyn,

Wim is a nickname used in the Netherlands. 

JoElayne
On Jan 22, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com> wrote:

> Help! I do not know what "Wim" is even referring too in the email. I sent an 
> email asking if this person would consider posting a GEDCOM to their tested 
> person and this is what was sent.
> 
> I know this is not Azorean, but would you consider helping me understand, 
> please. I do not even know where to find the values he has mentioned. " DF19+ 
> and DF88+ let alone the L644
> 
> The kit number they gave is not mine. My kit for James A Miller is 211318.
> 
> It might be easier to talk me through this on the phone. I would be available 
> after 8:30pm CA time. 801 254-5985
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Marilyn
> 
> ps Gilbert Machado's test kit has been received by FTDNA. His is an Azorean.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Wim Verelst <wimvere...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Mr. Johan Verelst FTDNA Match
> To: Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com>
> 
> 
> Hello Marilyn,
> 
> the paper trail of Johan Verelst's ancestry ends in a man named Cornelis 
> Verelst, born about 1565 in a small village south from Antwerp (present-day 
> Belgium). However, he is genetically related to me, and we share a 
> biologically confirmed ancestor who lived in that same region in the 15th 
> century.
> 
> Is the kit number of "your" James A. Miller 228805? I am one of the volunteer 
> co-administrators of the "P312 & Subclades" project at FTDNA, and in this 
> project we have quite a few Miller samples that have tested positive for the 
> DF19 and DF88 mutations. Is yours one of these? My own Verelst family is also 
> DF19+ DF88+, but unlike the Miller / Müller family it has an additional 
> mutation, L644. Any historic connection between the Miller and Verelst 
> lineages thus necessarily pre-dates the origin of the L644 mutation, and 
> because we estimate that L644 originated roughly between the 5th and 8th 
> century AD, we need to go back at least 1300 years to find a common ancestor. 
> I expect that this MRCA lived in northern Germany or Denmark.
> 
>   Best regards,
> 
>      Wim Verelst.
> 
> 
>  
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:49 PM, Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com> 
> wrote:
> Mr. Johan Verelst 
> is listed as a distant ancestral match to my James A Miller.
> 
> Would you please consider posting a GEDCOM file so we may attempt to locate 
> the connection between Johan and James?
> 
> Thank you
> Marilyn
> 
> 
> 
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