That's also my question.
Were you lucky to find in a baptism the padrinhos listed as single and their parents, plus say they are tios paternos and tios maternos?
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record
-- can't really read it) Help!
From: JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 6:24 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents?JR
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca.JR
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca.
Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_ item1/P70.html
Here is her death record from 1788:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_ item1/P84.html
On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa <jwcos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca.
>
> Here is Matheus" birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_ item1/P29.html
>
> Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_ item1/P152.html
>
> Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_ item1/P72.html
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, pi...@dholmes.com wrote:
>
>> Joseph,
>>
>> How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a?
>> I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research.
>>
>> Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of your Joao da Costa?
>> I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name.
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record
>> -- can't really read it) Help!
>> From: Joseph Costa <jwcos...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am
>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam.....
>>
>>
>>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:
>>> I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_ item1/P23.html
>>
>>
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