HI. I’ve posted this a few times already, but I think it keeps getting lost in the thread: I found Joam! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:28:53 AM UTC-4, Dano wrote: > > Actually, you shouldn't discount the 1751 record, Joseph. Not only does it > mention Matheus da Costa & Josefa Pacheco, several of the experts that > posted to this thread agreed that the child's name was most likely Nicolau; > the birth also falls into the birth cycle of this couple (every 2 to 3 > years); and, there is a Nicolau a couple of generations later, by one of > the descendants of this same couple. Therefore, there are several reasons > to accept the premise that the birth record was that of that person. Now, > there is a way to disprove the theory - plenty of time has elapsed since > his birth, just look for his marriage, or, death record :) > > Second: I'm still trying to find Joam - his marriage record didn't add any > additional clues - other than he was, indeed, the son of Matheus and > Josefa. Another problem is that we're running out of time for birthing w/ > this couple (20 yrs), there's only about 4 more yrs. Joam was definitely > born in Vila Franca, and, although, the marriage record says that he was > native to Arcanjo Sao Miguel, some of Josefa's family were members of Sao > Pedro - that may indicate that Mateus and Josefa may have lived in that > part of VFdC for a time. What with the name variations, and, the different > residences, there was a lot going on w/ this couple... > > Part III: Regarding the new data on the earlier chidren, I'm in the > process of transitioning to a new computer system, and, some of my "old > workhorse" software isn't recognized with the new stuff. Normally, I would > just send a gedcom to a email address, However, that would require that > there is a Genealogy Program that can accept that data. If you have a > genealogy software program that accepts that gedcom, most do), I can send > you a gedcom via email. Sorry for length of this posting. > > On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:54:53 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: > >> And I think we determined that Nicolau does not belong to Matheus and >> Jozefa. The father of Nicolau is "Matias", not "Matheus", and the mother >> is another Jozefa. I believe that in the thread above, you said that the >> Nicolau descends from another family member. >> >> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >>> >>> Dano: Also, regarding the children of Matheus and Jozefa, I do not have >>> have some of the children that you mention. Could you post a listing of >>> all of them and their full dates of birth/location of birth? >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >>>> >>>> Dano: Yes, this is very exciting. I can't wait to see the packet that >>>> Shirley is going to mail me. I truly appreciate everyone's help! >>>> >>>> I actually found Joam yesterday. Sorry, I think that it keeps getting >>>> lost in this thread. Here is his birth record from Matriz, Jul 16, 1748: >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Joseph, I'm happy that we could provide you with at least one branch >>>>> of your family tree (Jacome Raposo dating back to circa 1525). Antonio >>>>> Jacome Raposo is Josefa's father, and, from there the puzzle was >>>>> complete. >>>>> I was in the process of printing the report when I happened to see that >>>>> Shirley had already done so. It took a little while but we eventually all >>>>> got on the same page (thanks to Margaret). >>>>> >>>>> BTW, I also found Matheus' and Josefa's marriage - 19-Jul-1736 (PG) + >>>>> the first four of the couple's children, also from PG - Jozeph -1737, >>>>> Anna >>>>> -1739, Anna-1742, Antonia-1746 and, of course, the nearly >>>>> unreadable Nicolau (in 1751). Unfortunately, Joam wasn't among them in >>>>> Ponta Garca. I will try Arcanjo Sao Miguel next. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52:34 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate >>>>>> this! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre <shi...@digitalpath.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) >>>>>> pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it >>>>>> to >>>>>> you. >>>>>> > I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri >>>>>> Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. >>>>>> > Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. >>>>>> > I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM >>>>>> and where. >>>>>> > At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June >>>>>> 1748in SM-VFDC. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Shirley in CA >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Costa" < >>>>>> jwcos...@gmail.com> >>>>>> > To: <azo...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth >>>>>> record -- can't really read it) Help! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say >>>>>> you have on the Antonio Jacome Raposo family going way back in time. >>>>>> As >>>>>> far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information >>>>>> already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past >>>>>> few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, >>>>>> Joam >>>>>> born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. 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