Good morning group, first my apologies to Eliseu for not being able explain myself the right way, we have talked off list. Eliseu, I went to your website and typed in your "query box" *de Sousa* (with space between the prefix and the surname) and it worked. Now, if I type *deSousa* there's no results. I think everything else has been already explained. Eliseu, I know its possible, webdesign is not my strongest, I'm more into networking and hardware, but maybe João Ventura can tell you that, there might be a way to add to the database some kind of link between, example ALL the de Sousa with the DeSousa, etc. then when someone query's for DeSousa, the server will consider all the de Sousa and show them in the results and I would advice some kind of introductory note for those who actually don't really know that their surname was originally de Sousa, and all other possible "conversions" Just an idea!
I am curious, in fact, have always been, why Portuguese descendents in US adopt using, or should I say, "converting" their family name, if not already been by their ancestors, from example "de Sousa" do "DeSousa"? Is it because of what Angela wrote or is there any other law? Another thing is that some family's are the only ones one can "blame" for their 2nd or 3rd so on, generations don't have a clue what their origins are, do not know a single word in Portuguese, don't have a clue what Azores are or where are at! I have a few dozen cousins over there, they ALL know where Azores are, on the other hand, I have discovered relatives of 3rd and 4th generations older than me, in the US who didn't now much or nothing about their origins, among many things, I thing life itself is a cause and only when they get older they start wondering. Yes Angela, like I said, as long one know why and how, they will eventually track down the original form of the name. Doug, now that is quite curious, and the first time I hear it!! So US considers a prefix as a NAME? I know of course, interpretation of a Portuguese word, in this case a prefix (Artigo Defenido "DO" "DA") and (Preposição "DE") in the US has nothing to do with the one here, but I congratulate you with your effort of trying to maintain the origins with your sons names. As I wrote earlier, removing the "DA" was probably like changing a name in US. But in the ID card is still there. Do not consider this a lack of respect for the origins, its just more convenient to sign your name with out it, but the signature will always be associated to the complete name with the "DA" in it. Now my son got the his mother last name and mine after birth name with no "DO" OR DA" but he will always be an Andrade Chaves. Now, here is my opinion about Portuguese, in our case, Azorean descendents not knowing the right words in Portuguese, like Dano says, San Miguel, etc. Have you all had a close look at a for example a Passenger list from 1800's? Its not their fault, if in 1800's São Miguel was written down as Saint Michael Island when they arrived, who's fault is it? Where is Saint Mary? Try query internet from those and many more names and see the results! Now imagine some 60 years old lady that finds some old papers of her grandmother saying her great grand mother was from Saint Mary and this lady never heard about Azores and doesn't know much about Azores Google Groups, etc and ends up in India!! Its their parents fault in my opinion, Grandparents, etc, who have not been able to transmit their culture to their descendents, etc. I know some of you are older than me and I know some of you were not this case, but there are many still living in ignorance bit not because they want, but because they were lead to! And perfectly understand, even being younger than many of you, why you get so angry when they make these kind of mistakes and not being able to even spell the names right, its because we treasure our roots, but remember, some emigrants left Azores in search of a better life ans some went through so much they didn't even want to remember where Azores was, and with it, their history and culture was forgotten! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Dano <dpai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, Cheri, they probably don't mean it, but, what kind of research will > they turn out if they can't even get the names of the islands straight??? > You know I'm on the east coast, only been to CA once in my life, but, even > I know that San Miguel is in the Channel Islands - all it takes is a short > walk to where the encyclopedia is kept, you don't even need own it, to use > it... All I'm saying is that I can feel Eliseu's frustration when > people complain that none of the surnames on his website start with DE, or, > DA ... > > On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:24:32 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> The only San Miguel island that exists (that I could find on the >> Internet) is part of the Channel Islands of the coast of California. Wrong >> archipelago, wrong country, wrong ocean. And I know most people don't mean >> that! >> >> -- >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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