Wow, Kathy what a find! It’s so true about that assumptions can come back to haunt you. Raise the flag for DNA testing!! I had an uncle that died in the flu epidemic in 1918. My grandmother assured me that he had never married and had no children. I found him in 1918 on the WWI Draft Registrations with a wife! I know that it is him because of the birthdate and also the name Frank Catraio Silva which is the surname that another uncle used (Catraio). As far as I am aware, there were no children of this couple but who knows!!
Rosemarie From: Kathy Cardoza Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 1:34 PM To: Azores Google Group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names, DNA, and assumptions! I thought I’d share something with the list, and maybe help someone along the way …… We are always told to keep an open mind in genealogy, don’t have preconceptions, and investigate every possibility in our search for the truth. That lesson was brought home to me recently. As background, my 3GG were Francisco Pereira da Rosa and Maria Delfina who married and had their children in Flamengos, Faial. I found 8 children for them as well as followed their ancestors back years ago. Child #1 was my 2GG, Francisco Pereira da Rosa (we’ll call him Frank Jr.). More girls, then Child #4 was a Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #1). The rest were girls until you got to child #8, another Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #2). This family emigrated to Washington Twp., Alameda Co. California and I have documented them and their children forward in time. I had “assumed” all these years, that Manuel #1 had died as a child or infant because Manuel #2 had married in CA and had 10 kids ….. I don’t think I ever searched for his obito. So, fast forward to a couple of days ago ……. I was contacted by another researcher who, in the process of checking out a match on FTDNA, realized that her match was related to my Rosa family. I was skeptical at first because I thought this Manuel had died early and didn’t ever have a family. Anyway, to shorten this story, after a search on Ancestry, I found some descendants of this Manuel #1. None of these people knew where Manuel was from or anything about his lineage. But, among their sources, were obituaries on Manuel #1 and his siblings listed, including married names, all matched up to my family!! Now, my 2GG, Frank Jr., always used Rosa or later, Rose, as their surname as did Manuel #2….. all Roses. This newfound Manuel #1 used the name of Rodgers, Manuel Pereira Rodgers, and all his descendants are Rodgers, also! Now this “new” Manuel was originally know as Manuel Pereira Rosa, just like his younger brother, Manuel #2. He settled and lived in Petaluma, Sonoma Co., CA while his other two brothers lived in Centerville and Alvarado in Alameda Co. Another little interesting tidbit here is that some years ago, I interviewed an older cousin of my grandmother. She was 90 years old then but she told me there were some brothers who kept using Rosa and some that used Rodgers. I investigated that, halfheartedly because, remember the two brothers I knew of, used Rosa and the third one I had assumed to die early. Hmmph! Well, I was sure wrong and now have a whole additional branch to my Family Tree! So, the moral of this little story is NOT to make assumptions. Usually when there are more than two children born in a family with the same given name, it means the first one died early. But, not always! It seems crazy to me that that this family named two children both Manuel, but then they also named two of their daughters Maria Delfina! And they both lived, married, and had kids. So, you just never know! And, DNA does work and IS helpful! If you haven’t submitted yours yet, get ‘er done! You never know what connections you might find. Kathy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
