RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname unknown)

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No doubt Baleeiro (found in records also as Balieiro) came from being a nickname, but it's also a real surname and usually from Graciosa.

For some proof of my assertion it's a surname I take for example one Agueda Baleeiro of Velas from the 1500s, whom I have tentatively connected to one Pedro Goncalves Baleeiro, but just a hunch. We don't find women using such a name as her alcunha, so must be her chosen surname.

Searching for all instances of Baleeiro in my database, I did find a Fernandes Baleeiro on Terceira in the 1600s.

I'm writing as my database is searching. Now I find I actually have a Fernandes Baleeiro from Graciosa in the 1600s which could be the parents or cousins of Alberto's ancestor.

OK, searching is done and I have 72 people by this surname from Graciosa, Pico, Terceira, and Sao Jorge. I have none from any other islands, but that means nothing because if they are not connected to Pico or Terceira or part of a family that I have entered for some other reason, I simply skip them and move onto a record that interests me. These named Baleeiro are from the early 1500s to the 1800s, so it's an old name. Another woman was Catarina Baleeiro.

I found many Fernandes Baleeiro from Graciosa, so have little doubt this is Albert's ancestral connection. I know there are many Graciosa researchers on this list and so a decent chance they will be willing to share information.

I will give you one which you can keep in mind for the future once you find out the other necessary details that you must have to progress in your research.

Manuel Fernandes Baleeiro was a nobleman (Fidalgo da Casa Real) and native of Santa Cruz on Graciosa Island. My note has him living in 1720 and I have estimated he was born in about 1685. Since he was a noble, there will be records from the King of Portugal and available from the Torre do Tombo is Lisboa. His father by the same name was also a nobleman as was his grandfather. Whether your family ties into this noble branch, who knows? But you can have some fun tracing them.

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Pico & Terceira Genealogist

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname
unknown)
From: "luiznoia ." <noblankt...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, August 12, 2014 11:10 am
To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>

I'm thinking it's likely a Jose or Joao etc, Fernandes, Baleeiro.

His alcunha or even occupation as a whaler. 

You can find the Baleerio in Bahia records, but not until the 1890s. 

Maybe some background on where the information came from would help here. 

Eric Edgar

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote:

Hello Albert,

Fernandes is a surname. Maybe his name was Fernando?

Or maybe you are missing his given name and Fernandes Baleeiro is the compound surname.

Your information about him coming from Graciosa matches what I know about people named Baleeiro. They are found elsewhere in small numbers, so can easily be found passing through Faial, Pico Terceira, Sao Jorge, etc.

No need to travel to Faial for research when they put those records online this past year or so.

The government site is called CCA and it's quoted all the time, nearly every day on this list. Look through past messages for the URL.

Unfortunately, your lack of more information is a huge barrier to making further progress. I don't know this person. It seems to me you will have to find him in Bahia records to learn who he married, and most of all the names of his parents. Then you work back in time from there.

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Pico & Terceira Genealogist

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname
unknown)
From: Albert Figueras <albert.figue...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, August 12, 2014 6:03 am
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Dear all,

We are trying to find some information on a man named Fernandes Baleeiro from Faial and Graciosa. As far as we know, he emigrated from Faial to Bahia (Brazil) in 1726.

I'm aware that the information is scarce, but perhaps you could gide us on how to begin or where could we try to ask or search before going directly to Faial and spend som,e days there.

Thank you in advance.

Albert Figueras
 

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