In America, before 1920 and the womens' rights, if a man naturalized, his
wife automatically became a citizen too, so you won't find paperwork on
married women before 1920.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Andrea R <andrea.re...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Cheri - it is important for me to know how to give you the
> correct information when asking for help - I really appreciate it!
>
> My tree is under riogirl71 user at Ancestry and all the information I have
> found is there with the exception of the death certificates which I will
> try and add soon.
>
> I also found a Joseph Roberts in 1870 US census living in San Francisco b
> around 1850 in the Azores
>
> I have tried chasing Charles (Carlos) also and think he went to San Diego
> but could not find any naturalization records for Joseph (Jose), Charles,
> Rose or Clementina
>
> The 1900, 1910 and 1920 US census (San Francisco)  for Rose Roberts (LIMA)
> says Portugal also but when I look at her (and Clementina) but the 1930
> census shows Rosa Roberts and Clementina Lansfield (Roberts) as both born
> in the Azores  so I wonder if some census takers just used Portugal instead
> of Azores in some of those...
>
> Thank you for all the help - will keep digging!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Andrea,
>>
>> The snippet does no good. Best to say you got it from the 1900 U.S.
>> Federal Census in Sacramento, Sacramento Co, California for Joseph Roberts
>> and let us hunt it down (for those with Ancestry subscriptions).
>>
>> This does NOT say that anyone was born in Flores. It says that the FATHER
>> of Joseph Roberts was born in Flores. Weird that they specified one island
>> and everything else they generalized.
>>
>> The 1880 for Euponia Twp in Lyon Co, KS (how in the world did some
>> Portuguese people end up there???)...Joseph has a brother, Charles aka
>> Carlos. If you can't find a lead on Joseph, go chase Charles/Carlos.
>>
>> I see a variety of immigration dates for these people. And
>> naturalization. You really need to get that.
>>
>> A how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here:
>> http://goo.gl/13whta
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Andrea R <andrea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SlptK5nYB5I/Va8SqjUtjFI/AAAAAAAABkg/s07NPI2HlO4/s1600/2015-07-21%2B20_48_09-Ancestry.com%2B-%2B1900%2BUnited%2BStates%2BFederal%2BCensus.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SlptK5nYB5I/Va8SqjUtjFI/AAAAAAAABkg/s07NPI2HlO4/s1600/2015-07-21%2B20_48_09-Ancestry.com%2B-%2B1900%2BUnited%2BStates%2BFederal%2BCensus.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for looking, I feel like I keep hitting a wall!  I
>>> was hoping that having a date would be helpful.  The photo above is the
>>> 1900 census that mentions Flores, everything else says Portugal until a
>>> more recent census that says that ROSA and CLEMENTINA were born in the
>>> Azores.
>>>
>>> I believe they were married around 1867  I was hoping to see her name
>>> ROSA LIMA in the marriages or the daughter's name CLEMENTINA (born 1868)
>>> and figure out what the original surname was but have had no luck do far...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:40:23 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know of many Rodericks who were Rodrigues in the Azores.
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have not found any Roberto surnames in the Flores marriage book or
>>>>> the Familias do Lajes book
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not run into it in any other research on Flores before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could be  an Americanized version of Rodrigues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Edgar
>>>>>  On Jul 21, 2015 3:50 PM, "Andrea R" <andrea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello!  I am new to this group and I am researching the following
>>>>>> people (I only have the English names)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph Joaquim Roberts  born 8 Jun 1848 or 1850   1900 census says
>>>>>> born in Flores and immigrated in 1871   died in 1905 in Sacramento, CA 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> 1880 census shows living in Emporia, Kansas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> his wife
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosa Roberts - maiden name LIMA  born 22 Feb 1851 or 1852   1900
>>>>>> census says only Azores and immigration 1872  death certificate shows
>>>>>> father Frank (Francisco ?) Lima  died in 1935 in San Francisco
>>>>>>
>>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clementina Roberts born 23 Oct 1868  1900 census says only Azores and
>>>>>> immigration 1872 died 1945 in San Francisco (married Lansfield)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> son
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony Joseph Roberts born 5 Jan 1870 some places say Portugal and
>>>>>> some say Boston, MA cannot find any records of birth -  died in 1937 in 
>>>>>> San
>>>>>> Francisco
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched Ancestry and many sites and could not find anything.  I
>>>>>> know few records are indexed and I tried searching the Azores reocrds on
>>>>>> their site but haven't found anything yet.  Was hoping to discover what 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last name was originally.  I have obtained all death certificates but 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are vague.  The only clue was Flores in the 1900 census.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much!  This has been interesting as my family didn't
>>>>>> even know they were from the Azores!
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