Beginning in 1500 with Cabral's journey into the Indian Ocean, trading centers were developed in Africa, the Red Sea, and South Asia.
The map attached shows the Portuguese outposts around 1600. Slaves could have been purchased from any of these places and transported to the Azores. I have a match with another Flores family. We both share backgrounds of Red Sea ( Arabia, Iran), Northeast Africa, Sub Sahara Africa, West Asian, South Asian. Eric Edgar On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, DNA testing has shown people with African lineages. > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Manita M <manita.morg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is very interesting. >> >> All my CCA records research are in the eastern part of Sao Miguel so >> perhaps that is why I've never seen an "escravo" but I may not have noticed >> it either as I'm still a newbie and not fully translating the records but >> just focusing on the dates, names and places. >> >> I'm very curious to hear from others on this topic. >> >> Would the slaves have been "purchased" overseas and been brought to the >> Azores? I'm assuming they mainly came from Northern Africa? >> >> I do know that at the time of settlement they brought slaves to help >> populate but I had assumed they would have become "free" once they got to >> the Azores. >> >> Hmmmmmmm. >> >> DNA-wise: >> >> Anyone with Azorean DNA must have some slave OR North African DNA. Of >> course anyone from Southern Portugal has some North African already mixed >> into them so that can also explain the DNA ethnic makeup, but back to >> slaves. >> >> I am assuming the slaves came from Africa? >> >> Yes, I'm well aware that there was white slavery too but those white >> slaves ended up in the Berbarian lands and in fact could be our pre-Azorean >> ancestors but that's another topic. >> >> I just wonder if these slaves were already in mainland Portugal or >> Madeira and then sent to the Azores or if they came to the Azores from >> Africa directly? >> >> Interesting topic and would love to hear from anyone with knowledge on >> this topic that could reference sources. >> On Sep 3, 2015 7:01 AM, "MaryAnn Santos" <m...@nyu.edu> wrote: >> >>> I've seen a number of references to slaves - "escravos" - in the CCA >>> records. My research is primarily in São Miguel. >>> >>> MaryAnn >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:29 AM, linda <menesesli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 8:53:17 PM UTC-7, manita.morgado >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Slave? >>>>> >>>>> I've never seen or noticed that in a CCA records. I guess it could >>>>> have been there and I didn't realize. >>>>> >>>>> Really? >>>>> >>>>> How common would this have been? >>>>> >>>> >>>> As it happens, this week I've been going through early and mid 18th >>>> century baptismal and marriage records for Angra and Horta. During this >>>> period and in these two cities, references to slaves are relatively >>>> common. I jotted a few notes as I went along, but wasn't trying to be >>>> exhaustive in catching them, and for Angra Baptisms 1719-1729, I counted >>>> about 20 records for slaves. Between 1710 and 1719, I noted at least 5 (by >>>> then, I was growing tired of jotting page numbers, so there are probably >>>> more). Though generally of babies, several of these baptisms were >>>> of adults. I also observed two further records with English slave owners >>>> rather than native Portuguese owners. In Horta I took note of four slave >>>> records (two baptisms and two obits), and one baptism in Velas, Sao Jorge >>>> as well (there are certainly more instances of slaves in the records of >>>> these two cities, but I stopped noting them). Previously, I've observed >>>> records for slaves in Lajes/Praya da Victoria, Terceira (possibly >>>> elsewhere) too, but I don't have my notes about those to hand at the >>>> moment. >>>> >>>> Angra and Horta were two of the principal cities for the archipelago-- >>>> the seats of commerce and government-- so that may account for the presence >>>> of the slave populations there. These urban centers were populated by >>>> some of the wealthier citizens of the islands. I inferred from names and >>>> titles that many of the slave owners were of high social status. In two or >>>> three cases, women were listed as the owners. The time period and >>>> places are critical-- Portugal was one of the earlier countries to ban the >>>> practice of slavery, IIRC-- my notes are on another computer-- but I'm not >>>> sure now of the dates. If you have been going through 19th century records >>>> and/or rural parishes, then you are less likely to have seen slaves >>>> mentioned. Also, if you aren't a native speaker (I am not), then it's very >>>> easy to pass over the word. I was also surprised the first time I >>>> encountered and understood it. >>>> >>>> rambling thoughts late at night-- hope this is helpful, >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The child of eight days baptized March 7? 1659 son of one of the >>>>>>> slaves by the name of Maria of (belonging to) Barbara of Sao Goncalo (S. >>>>>>> Goncalo is the name of the area/place in S. Pedro) The Godfather was >>>>>>> Sebastiao do Rego son of Francisco Martins >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Sandra Perez <perezsa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sebastiao's birth--bottom right. I think I see Goncalo Frz or Joao >>>>>>>> Goncalo Frz and maybe Barbara. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667_item1/P90.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sandra Perez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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