OK, thanks very much. It's hard to draw many conclusions without seeing the record. On slave's names-- you know, I have no idea what the custom was for taking last names. Good question!
Linda On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote: > > It is a written record and he says all it gives is the child's name, > mother's name (her last name is same as Jose and that might be that she is > his escrava??) and the escrava of Jose. There was no more information > other than the birthdate/baptism date and priest/church. No other names, > etc. > > "E" > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, linda <menese...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> I don't think one can make that assumption. The records I've seen for >> slaves-- baptisms and marriages-- always include the owner's names. The >> owner's name is a part of the slave's social and legal identity. It's >> analogous to a woman in the records rarely being identified without mention >> of her relationship to her father/parents or her husband. >> >> E., can you provide a link for the record your friend is wondering >> about? Who are the godparents for the child? There may be a clue to >> paternity there. >> >> John, Thank you for the succinct and cogent explanation of natural vs. >> illegitimate. It's helped to clarify my thoughts on the topic. >> >> Linda >> >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote: >>> >>> So is he to *assume* Jose is the father of Maria?? and Anna probably >>> worked for him?? >>> >>> "E" >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Luciana Pio Raposo <lrap...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes it does. Natural could either mean illegitimate or Maria, born to >>>> Anna , a slave of Jose. >>>> >>>> >>>> Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 01:51:35 UTC-3, "E" Sharp escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> Someone asked me this and I am not sure the google translation is >>>>> correct. Example...Maria natural de Anna d'uma escrava of Jose. Does >>>>> this really mean Maria illegitimate child of Anna who is a slave of >>>>> Jose??? >>>>> >>>>> "E" >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
