I need some help with one word....in the 2nd record...the marriage of Joao Ignacio da Sousa...there's what appears to be a word/name/ in front of his father's name.
? Joao da Sousa Machado....any clues? Thank you for any ideas, Nancy Jean ________________________________ From: nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 5:02:41 PM To: bsei2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is this the same man? Thank you so much! I just wasn't sure of what I was seeing! I sure wish they put the ages in the records during this time. Between the name changes and the marriages within families it's very difficult to know who's who! I still have no idea why Antonio Abreu/ spelled Habreu on his marriage, would take part of his wife's father's name, de Quadros. Why not his full name of de Quadros Pereira? Yikes! I've never seen a record where a man married his son-in-laws sister! Also, thank you for posting the links and the suggestion to look for Maria Bernarda's obit. This is my direct maternal line and Maria Bernarda's records are very illusive. I'd love to be able to trace her line back further.....my Mt full sequence is H3b with 5 extra mutations and within the Iberian Ashkenazi Mt DNA Project at FTDNA our H3b is flagged as "likely Sephardic"....and I have no close matches at all....only 1 and she's a genetic distance of 3....no clues there. Best regards, Nancy Jean ________________________________ From: bsei2...@gmail.com <bsei2...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 4:16:42 PM To: Azores Genealogy Cc: fishsongf...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Is this the same man? Here is what I think I see, along with links to the records: 27 Nov 1794, Velas Joao Jose da Silveira, son of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria, native and parishioner of Velas Anna Bernarda Poderoza, daughter of Joao Ignacio da Souza and Maria Bernarda Poderoza, native of Norte Grande and parishioner of Velas http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P37.html Month? Day? 1797 (presumably between 17 Sep and 5 Nov 1797), Velas Joao Ignacio de Souza?, son of Joao de Souza? Machado and Tereza? Maria de Jesus, widower of Maria Bernarda Poderoza, native of Velas and parishioner of Norte Grande. Joanna? Maciel Alvares, daughter of Antonio Alvares de Quadros and Joanna Maria da Silveira, native and parishioner of Velas http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806/SJR-VL-VELAS-C-1788-1806_item1/P54.html It appears to me that the father of the bride in the first marriage is the same as the groom in the second marriage. Since Anna Bernarda's marriage does list her mother as defuncta (deceased), perhaps she died between 1794 and 1797 (possibly in Norte Grande). It also appears to me that the parents of the groom in the first marriage are the same as the parents of the bride in the second marriage. If so, then you are correct that he married his son-in-law's sister. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.