Hi Lee, Yes, it's possible. I have some cases in my data base. But, the mariage record would be mentionned a "dispensa por consanguinidade de 1° grao em linha colateral" ou "1° e 2° grao de consanguinidade". It's not write, in your case. Josefa Joaquina is a frequent surname. I have 12 Josefa Joaquina in my data base (but not yours). The most probable is the priest wrote tio maternos (would be a mistake), in place of tios paternos (I look that a lot of time).Then Josefa Joaquina, wife of Manoel José Coelho, is the sister of Antônio da Rocha Tristão and the paternal aunt of Maria. Try to find the batism record of Maria do Carmo in São Mateus and , perhaps, there are the parents of Josefa Joaquina, mother of Maria do Carmo. If not, the godparents could be indications. Philippe Garnier Paris - France
Em Domingo, 24 de Julho de 2016 23:44, Lee <shorts...@suddenlink.net> escreveu: Earlier I posted a question about the birth of Maria, daughter of Maria do Carmo and husband Antonio da Rocha Tristtao about the padrinhos. Now I have a real mystery/puzzle/family secret on my hands? I am researching the family of Maria do Carmo and Antonio da Rocha Tristao; below are sources/causes of my confusion (mystery/puzzle). First, the marriage of Maria and Antonio http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860_item1/P46.html you can see that Maria's parents are given as Josefa Joquina and pai nao sabido (unknown father). And Antonio's parents are given as Francisco da Rocha Tristao and Marianna Jacinta. Second, the birth of Maria (posted earlier) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-B-1852-1860_item1/P2.html I figured out that the Tios materna meant "maternal uncles/aunt"; but does it mean Manoel Jose Coelho or Josefa Joquina? (Remmber, Maria do Carmo's mother was a Josefa Joaquina per her marriage above. And, third, the marriage of Josefa Joaquina and Manoel Jose Coelho http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860_item1/P45.html Her parents are not listed, but she is the widow of one Joaquin Jose Brasil who died in/is buried is Sao Pedro. Last, the marriage of Josefa Joaquina and Joaquin Jose Brasil in Sao Pedro http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1820-1843/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1820-1843_item1/P82.html Her parents are listed as Francisco da Rocha Tristao and Marianna Jacina, who are the parents of Antonio da Rocha Tristato (first marriage record above) who married Maria do Carmo, daughter of a Josefa Joaquina, who is listed has her mother in the same record above (1st one). My conundrum, did Maria do Carmo marry her uncle???? I can tell you, this one is driving me a little by crazy. It's keeps going in circles and circles....I think Josefa Joaquina and the family were trying to hide something (or someone). Any suggestions/comments/ideas appreciated. Lee EstepOak Hill WV PS - Sorry for the long post.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.