Will look when I get back home. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Hugo Campos <hug...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you so much, Cheri! > > I know... it's hard not to get lost in the weeds. > > All I'd love to find is: > 1) My great grandfather's date of birth (and death). > 2) The year of his departure for Rio de Janeiro > > I used one of the resources you suggested, "immigrant arrivals in Rio de > Janeiro - 1885-1891 <http://www.an.gov.br/rvbndes/menu/menu.php>", and > was able to find one single record matching his name. However, the search > result says he arrived in Rio de Janeiro on April 19, 1907 at age 23. If > correct, it means he was born in 1884. > > Also, if accurate, he arrived on board a ship by the name "Pernambuco" > from Madeira Islands, not from the Azores. That threw me off. > > There is another discrepancy: the record shows that he entered Brazil with > a wife (20 years old) and one year old child. My maternal grandmother and > his only child was born on February 11, 1906. So, she would have been one > year old in April 1907. However, we were told she was born in Rio de > Janeiro. > > This is all so confusing! > > I also found a picture of his mother, my great-great grandmother, but the > photo is undated. I believe her to be named Maria Maxima do Carmo. > > I wish I could search the names of the passengers that arrived on board > the Pernambuco in 1906. > Hugo > > > > > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gmaEqGgQew/WnP5LBnzN-I/AAAAAAAAScM/Q1SRBysM5yYqdU3m2NHXA3w0NC1Gd5pNwCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-02-01%2Bat%2B2.43.00%2BPM.png> > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pavzLVNRlH0/WnP7XUcXYRI/AAAAAAAAScY/bWEujHIulEwI8JO2D0H_poWCoOqAe3C3QCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4566.jpg> > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r0rxSccdcLw/WnP-HlwyZiI/AAAAAAAASck/wHLQRrfjYvkiumXvJbX_Ytoudpv9mr7CwCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4556.jpg> > > > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:03:24 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Hi Hugo, >> >> If the group photo was taken in April, maybe someone was handing out a >> copy to each of the men. To keep track, they noted the date they gave them >> the photo?? >> >> Maybe it's the date each man left. So many things it could be. >> >> At least it establishes more of a time line for you. The photo was taken >> in Terceira, as noted on the front of the card. The back says the photo was >> taken in 1872. All of the people in the photo were in Terceira on that date >> in 1872. >> >> So where is your Joaquim who was born 1875? Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Hugo Campos <hug...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Apologies, Cheri. I do not wish to exclude anyone. >>> >>> What I said above (for the benefit of all) is this: >>> >>> Joaquim de Souza Silveira, my maternal grandfather, had at least one >>> brother (whom, I believe, was older). His name was José de Souza Silveira. >>> I know little about him, but I have two photos of his, one of which shows >>> him sitting among friends (perhaps relatives, I don't know). I do not know >>> if it's the same person mentioned in the marriage registry found by Júlio. >>> >>> In the back of the photograph someone identified the men pictured as >>> Manoel Lourenço (age 24), Manoel Mendes (26), José Borges (22), and José >>> Silveira (35). The photograph is dated April 25, 1872. >>> >>> Other dates and additional notes were later added to the photo, although >>> I do not know what these dates represent. So confusing! >>> >>> For Manoel Lourenço, the date of February 6, 1872 was added. For Manoel >>> Mendes, April 23, 1872. There is no date for José Borges. And finally, for >>> José Silveira, the date is September 18, 1872. The photo is signed JSS >>> (which may be for Joaquim or José de Souza Silveira). Not sure. >>> >>> Additional information written on the back of the photo says: >>> >>> - (Manoel) Mendes (turned) 40 on December 17, 1885. >>> - Joaquim de Souza, 40 on August 5, 1886. >>> - He died (not sure whom) on May 12, 1903. (This is certainly not >>> Joaqum de Souza Silveira, my great-grandfather, who died in the late >>> 1940s, >>> early 1950s) >>> - João Marcelino S. (or J.) May 19. >>> >>> It's all a mystery I am hoping to unravel. >>> >>> Thank you so much! >>> Hugo >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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