Consular records are indeed available but where they're located and the dates varies...widely.
New Bedford (and *only* New Bedford) records, pre-1960s, are for the most part at the New Bedford Whaling Museum The national archives (in Portugal) holds some of the very early US consular/embassy records The Ministry of Foreign Affairs (in Portugal) has its own archive and holds a wide variety of consular records (none are available online) The official protocol is that when the consular office wants to dispose of records (often because of a lack of space) they are to microfilm them and keep them onsite (the originals may or may not be sent to Portugal), but I know for a fact this protocol hasn't always been followed in the US The other thing to remember is that the consulate would only have records pertaining to the folks who actually *registered* with them: while they were obligated to do by Portuguese law, there were way more folks who didn't, then those who did. Sonia ________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 5:51:00 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Has anyone seen a passport issued in the name of the father of the kid (12 years old)? Antonio, was a minor at the age of 12. Things change. I've seen name changes, more so for women than men, but some men did change it. So being a minor, named Antonio, he emigrated under the family name of Martins d'Azara. I don't know what the the consulate did. Their records are not available, to my knowledge. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Joana Azara <joana.az...@gmail.com<mailto:joana.az...@gmail.com>> wrote: >From what I knew Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is the son of Antonio >Martins d'Azara. Antonio Aniceto is the one baptized in 1845. That is puzzling >me... If the passport couldn`t be issued in the name of his father, then you have a good hipothesis: he changed his name later in life. Do you think it`s something a consulate would keep track of? Thanks again On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote: The 1857 passaporte is for Antonio Martins d'Azara, age 12. If you think he's the 1845 Antonio in that baptism record, then he is. You have to decided if Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is Antonio Martins d'Azara. If he is, he changed his name after being in Brasil for awhile. There was a thread from about a year ago where someone stated majority age was 25. So maybe at that time, he changed his name. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
