In one of our early maternal deaths, the mother died and the baby died 10 
months later.

Nancy

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I did not check the obits but the baptismal records were available from 1840 to 
the time of her death which I checked and found no children born but now 
thinking about it I should look past her death date in case a baby was born and 
later died. Thanks.

Rick



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Hi Rick,



Just curious if there is an obit around the time of Luzia's obit for her baby? 
Possible some info on it if there is one. 33 yr old death for a female could be 
childbirth related. It was in my family.



Regards,

Nancy Jean





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Hi,  I am trying to close up a confusing remarriage in Santissimo Salvador 
where Francisco de Pimentel widower of Luzia do Espirito Santo marries Antonia 
de Jesus widow of Francisco de Pimentel. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P66.html
  Left side.



I have found the Obito of Luzia do Espirito Santo here in Porto Formoso:  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-O-1843-1858_item1/P12.html
  Left side bottom entry. Not much information except she was 33 years old more 
or less.



The marriage records for the years 1821 to 1843 as are the Baptismal records 
for 1817 to 1840 are missing so I cannot find the marriage to Francisco de 
Pimentel or look for any children prior to 1840.



I did look at the Baptismal records from 1808 to 1813 and found only one Luiza 
baptized: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P135.html
  upper right entry.  Two things:  the spelling of the name Luzia  (used on 
Obito) compared to Luiza (use on baptismal and the remarriage)  are two 
different names. If the marriage record were found it would clear up that 
question  but I can only assume that: this is the wrong baptism or the name was 
changed at marriage. Perhaps the priest writing the Obito was hard of hearing.



The age at death of 33 years old would mean she was born around 17 Nov 1811 the 
baptism record I found was born on 14 Feb 1813.  I can accept the difference of 
age as reasonable being off by 14 months.



I am leaning that the baptism record I found is the right one any opinions on 
this.



Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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