Thank you. I was seeing “de Maurico”. That had to be wrong. The last name “de 
Meneses” sound better. Plus there are families in Altares with this last name.

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I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.
Rick

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I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:
Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.
 
Rick
 
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There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?
 
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From: Richard Francis Pimentel
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The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
 
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What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html
 
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