Trindade is not her surname. It's part of her given name. Many women take a devotional name as their middle name.The 2nd time period (1860 or so - 1911 or so) the women didn't have surnames. So if they didn't have surnames, I don't force one. It didn't happen there and I"m not going to put my American way of research onto a Portuguese naming custom.Here's an article from the Azores GenWeb on Naming Practices:Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada--On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:32 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:--Curious and hoping to learn, Cheri. Why do you leave the female surname blank if it is given? (Trindade). I leave it blank unless one is listed in the record but; put it in when it shows in the record..
Thanks ,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:16 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] which is correct, "z" or "s"
Yes, most of us now just use the modern spelling. It's a headache down the road when you get a few thousand people. Say the marriage says Manoel da Souza and Marianna da Trindade, I enter Manuel da Sousa and Mariana da Trindade and I put in the marriage note field "married as Manoel da Souza and Marianna da Trindade."
De Da Do....Yeah, if we all used them, then the majority of Portuguese names would begin with the letter D! The De Da Do is really a surname prefix. In the above example I would enter the names like this:
Given: Manuel da
Surname: Sousa
and for her:
Given: Mariana da Trindade
Surname:
Her surname is left blank. I can search by first name in my fully featured genealogy program, so it's not a problem at all.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:07 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
In your opinion, should I record all names with the “modern” spelling for ease of searching or will that only cause more confusion down the line? Also, I’m thinking of eliminating the “de”, “da”, “do” since it seems to cause problems for my computer program, Familytree, when searching for people with several surnames. Opinions?
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
From: Leonor Bertoni
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 10:37 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] which is correct, "z" or "s"
Funny enough, the other day my 23 year old daughter turned to her brother and said “do you know what is the best thing about mãe doing all this ancestry stuff? When we take over, we won’t have to deal with all this frustration” I silently smirked knowing that for them, for now, ignorance is bliss, but one day they will see what frustration really is!
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:32 PM Cheri Mello <gfscherim@gmail.com> wrote:
About 1910-1911 they changed the "z" to an "s" (although we have people writing the records who weren't the best of spellers). There's been a more recent change too, but that won't affect what we are researching. Let our grandkids deal with that one! LOL
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:25 AM Leonor Bertoni <leonor.bertoni@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the more modern spelling is with an “s” instead of “z”. I’ve seen Joze, Thereza, Roza and even the parish church was Nossa Senhora do Rozario where as today it is Nossa Senhora do Rosario. Interestingly enough, the Spanish kept the “z”, Souza, Dominguez, etc.
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:08 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Cheri; Speaking of “z” and “s” , I think I’ve seen Sousa and Souza along with several other changes in spelling in the various records. Is it a function of time frame, the particular priest or am I mis-remembering this. I know Jacintha and Jacinta as well as Theresa and Teresa but; I think I’ve also see Tereza. Am I wrong?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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