I did that and did not find anything! I may need a break!

Leonor

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 20:08, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Leonor,
>
> Emigration leaving the Azores is here on the Tombo.pt site (which will
> link you back to the CCA): https://tombo.pt/d/acores
> Scroll down to the Ponta Delgada section and pick the book that contains
> 1883.
> Happy hunting,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM <leonor.bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri,
>> Thank you so much. This pretty much backs up what I have.
>>
>> I have never done any research on anyone leaving the Azores. Where do I
>> find this information? Ship manifests and all that, is there a database?
>>
>> Leonor
>>
>> On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:32:54 UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Leonor,
>>>
>>> I have to get going, so I don't have time to think about your evidence.
>>> But I can do a quick look up from the Hawaii end.
>>>
>>> Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
>>> Isles 1879-1883 by Bob De Mello. Page 217
>>> Manuel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, son of Boaventura de Medeiros and Joana
>>> Candida, from Rosario, Lagoa
>>> wife Maria da Conceicao, 35, dau. of Jose d'Oliveira and Joana Emilia.
>>> No place given
>>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6. All born Rosario, Lagoa. On the
>>> Bell Rock
>>>
>>> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. Page
>>> 276
>>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, Bell Rock 1883, with Maria da
>>> Conceicao, 35, wife
>>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6, Manoel 3, Jose 5 months
>>>
>>> Both books transcribed by humans and people can and do make mistakes
>>> (Bob De Mello's book has the mistake with the missing children; however, he
>>> gives the parents' names whereas Knowlton does not).
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM <leonor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I came across a passenger list for Hawaii. I believe the family on
>>>> there are my family but the wife has a different name. Here is my evidence:
>>>>
>>>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga April 27, 1849
>>>> Maria da Gloria about 1848
>>>> Married on May 11, 1872
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P62.html
>>>> Groom's parents: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>>> Bride's parents: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>>
>>>> Children:
>>>> Maria - Mar. 29 1872
>>>> Parents are listed as: Manoel Medeiros/Maria da Conceicao
>>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna de Jesus
>>>> Mat: Jose de Medeiros Zangao/Anna de Jesus
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P151.html
>>>>
>>>> Ricarda - Oct. 26 1874
>>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P340.html
>>>>
>>>> Maria - Jan. 16, 1877
>>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna de Jesus
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P488.html
>>>>
>>>> Manoel - Dec. 30, 1879
>>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881_item1/P6.html
>>>>
>>>> Jose - Oct. 19, 1882
>>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P121.html
>>>>
>>>> The only information on the passenger list from 1883 is:
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-04-10 at 12.40.11 PM.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So Manoel would have been born on approximately 1850
>>>> Maria da Conceicao - approx. 1848
>>>> Maria - approx. 1873
>>>> Ricarda - approx. 1875
>>>> Manoel - approx. 1880
>>>> Maria - approx. 1877
>>>> Jose - approx. 1883
>>>>
>>>> Only once does the mother show as Maria da Conceicao on the children's
>>>> baptismal records. The ages are all pretty close, down to the manifest wife
>>>> being older than the husband. I have not found any other records that would
>>>> match this manifest. I do have another Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga in my
>>>> tree and he is married to a Maria da Conceicao, however, her parents are
>>>> Jacinto Carvalho and Jacintha de Jesus and he was born in 1823.  In this
>>>> case, Boaventura only has one son by the name of Manoel (as far as I have
>>>> researched).  Thoughts?
>>>>
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