O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the elder. If there is no comma, it is a surname. Velho as a surname predates the written church records. The name appears to have fallen out of favour and is hardly used any more, at least based on what I see in the later 1800-1899 records. Though I could be wrong. Frei Goncalo Velho Cabral was the discoverer of the Azores and the first Capitao Donatario of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. He was the son of Fernao Velho, who was Knight of Santiago. Ilha de St Maria has many Velho names. This all from the the first edition of Rodrigo Rodrigues.
JR On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-4, Lizmig wrote: > > I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura <angel...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder > person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some > nicknames do. > > 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> escreveu no dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53: > >> Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: >> Velho. When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part >> of the name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your responses, >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> <#E5A1B242-A493-4317-B28D-83A6CB99B3A9@gmail.com_m_174357010483384964_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d61bff2.1c69fb81.dae67.9ed5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d61bff2.1c69fb81.dae67.9ed5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFf%2BosPHjJ5s%3D_2GNn_CFquPLxaBaK7aJkhUM04X8i4RsQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFf%2BosPHjJ5s%3D_2GNn_CFquPLxaBaK7aJkhUM04X8i4RsQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/cdfad36a-f7c2-4b9a-9d1c-b8db289c4980%40googlegroups.com.