Hi Anthony There are a few trees on ancestry.com for Joseph Silver who died 18 Aug 1908 at “Ebbeville” Upper Manila NSW. He married Catherina (Katie) Nowland in 1876 and had 11 or 12 children. Two sons survived to adulthood: Francis Laurence and Paul James Silver.
This Joseph Silver arrived in Sydney on 9 Dec 1864, aged 26 (placing his birth around 1838) from Wellington NZ. He was one of a crew of 8+ the captain. The official records show his birth nation as ”Fayal”, which I would assume is Faial, one of the western islands of the Azores. However the trees on Ancestry have his birth listed as 1841 in Faial da Terra on the island of Sao Miguel. I am inclined to go with the western Island of Faial as more likely, because Faial was listed as the nation not the village. Perhaps someone more familiar with Sao Miguel and Faial da Terra could help here. To find where on the island of Faial is a bit trickier. You would need to research the records for each Freguesia (village) for around the time of his birth 1838-1841 or maybe enlist the help of one of this groups genealogists. The Manila historical Society could help with obituary etc on www.manillamuseum.org.au or 02 67851207 9-4pm Thursday for historian. You might get lucky with parents names and birth village. Happy to help further so you can contact me on my email directly, if you wish. My ancestor from the western island of Flores was a very similar timeframe to your Joseph Silver. Pam On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 16:57, Anthony Silver <thecoloursilver...@gmail.com> wrote: > what I know, is that he is from somewhere in the azores. > he came to Australia by ship, but which one, back in the 1850's sometime. > he died here in aus, in nsw, being the town of manilla. > there is a genealogy society in Sydney, which I am yet to try. > even his naturalization, and marriage cert had limited info on it. > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:25 AM Pamela Hand <poppymayf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If you can search for an obituary for your Joseph Silver, it may give a >> clue. That was a very useful source of information for my Azorean 2x great >> grandfather. It gave us his village and island in the Azores. It also told >> the story of how he came to Australia. You would need to know where he died >> and search the newspapers or contact the local historical group. They are >> always very helpful. >> >> My understanding is that some of the Azoreans who came to Australia and >> New Zealand were recruited onto American whaling ships. They were often >> shipwrecked as in my ancestors case or jumped ship, as I believe it was a >> hard life on these ships. >> >> You need to know the village or freguesia and island in the Azores. Then >> you can search the archives. Also consider doing DNA testing as Cheri has >> already suggested. >> Good luck >> >> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 18:07, Anthony Silver < >> thecoloursilver...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Pam .. >>> >>> yeah you're right, though i don't know for sure whether that is him for >>> not. >>> im one of his descendents, trying to trace his life, when he lived in >>> azores, somewhere >>> how he got to Aus, from azores, is something I want to know, not just >>> his life in azores. >>> thankyou >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:41 PM Pamela Hand <poppymayf...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Anthony >>>> There is a Joseph Silver born Portugal abt.1837 who arrived in Sydney >>>> NSW on the “India” on 1 April 1859. He was aged 22y. 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