Thanks Cheri!

I'm sure you're right, and that there were other factors that determined 
why they ended up on S. Miguel for the wedding.  Such a mystery!

:D

Linda

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 12:27:18 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I looked up a calendar for 1849 and yes, Lent would have been from 22 
> February and 8 April (Easter Sunday). You couldn't marry during Lent. 
> However, it didn't matter where you married, as the marriage banns had to 
> be posted at both the bride and groom's home churches. Maybe they moved 
> around trying to conceive her pregnancy (that's a bit expensive), but a 
> possibility. 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:00 PM linda <menese...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Probably this is the source for that info in the database about the 
>> Gazelle, 1870:
>>
>>
>> https://www.worldcat.org/title/logbook-of-the-ship-gazelle-1870-oct-26-1872-nov-28/oclc/71254679&referer=brief_results
>>
>> I can't see where the logbook itself is held, but it must still exist.
>>
>> It seems that the whaling museum has a logbook database in an excel file 
>> (hope this link will work):
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&ved=2ahUKEwik0OSjx6TnAhWhna0KHcvrA3AQFjAPegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whalingmuseum.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FDocuments%2FLogbook%2520Database%2520Master_web.xls&usg=AOvVaw3aUTqkSiGAaEq18He9SVHv
>>
>> It comes up near the top of a google search on the terms 
>>
>> ship seconet logbook 1855
>>
>> I have to run, but hope this provides a lead.  
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 11:33:02 AM UTC-8, Bill Seidler wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry but in my memory I co-mingled some whaling crew entries.  There 
>>> are many Francis Joseph, Francisco Jose, or other iterations in the whaling 
>>> crew database.  Many can be eliminated by age or residence.  I also 
>>> eliminated any entry before 1855 since he was listed as a carpenter and not 
>>> a mariner his son's baptisms that year.  That left several that didn't have 
>>> enough data to be eliminated, but two that had additional data consistent 
>>> with being my Francisco Jose.  It was these two I co-mingled.  First was 
>>> 1855 on the Ship Seconet who was listed as a COOPER but it did not give his 
>>> age or residence.  A cooper would be consistent with Francisco Jose being a 
>>> carpenter and with Francis Joseph in New Zealand being a cooper.  The 
>>> second was a Francis Joseph on the Bark Gazelle in 1870 which gives his age 
>>> as 43 and his residence as Sao Jorge, Azores.  Either or both of these 
>>> could fit (or not) my wife's ancestor.
>>>
>>> Bill Seidler
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:57:57 AM UTC-8, Bill Seidler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Linda, your insight is always appreciated and helpful.  Sorry 
>>>> for the delay in responding.  You are correct that I search for an Azorean 
>>>> obit for him.  I looked through 1911 in Urzelina where he last lived and 
>>>> in 
>>>> Praia, Graciosa where he was born.  The DNA evidence coupled with the name 
>>>> and occupation circumstance seems very compelling.  Another coincidence is 
>>>> that the New Bedford Whaling Museum database show that the was a crew 
>>>> member on a Whaler in 1867 named Francisco Jose Cordeiro from Sao Jorge, 
>>>> Azores, whose job was "cooper".
>>>>
>>>> Attached are timelines of what I have for him in the Azores and what 
>>>> Tony (my New Zealand contact) provided from his records.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Bill
>>>>
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