Hello,

Am 05.01.2013 um 00:28 schrieb NicoEchániz:

> On 01/04/2013 02:41 PM, Marek Lindner wrote:
>> On Friday, January 04, 2013 23:12:59 NicoEchániz wrote:
>>>> Selection class 3 and beyond do change the gateway when a better one
>>>> becomes available. But as you correctly pointed out these selection
>>>> classes don't consider the announced bandwidth for the simple reason
>>>> that nobody cared. In most wireless scenarios (the main playground for
>>>> batman-adv) the path towards the gateway turned out to be more critical
>>>> than the gateway's pipe to the internet.
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to propose something if you care about having this option. The
>>>> necessary code shouldn't be too hard to add. Backward compatibility will
>>>> be more difficult to achieve.
>>> 
>>> I believe that those of us who chose to use selection class 1 would
>>> prefer if it were "dynamic". So if a new gateway appears, then the
>>> client would evaluate with the same previous criteria if it is better or
>>> not (considering "the gateway's advertised throughput as well as the
>>> link quality") and switch accordingly. I see no reason why when someone
>>> chooses selection class 1 she would be expecting to choose the best
>>> available gw once and not ever check again.
>>> 
>>> If a network is stable, when a new better gw appears in some area it
>>> won't be selected until nodes are restarted, and that might be a long time.
>> 
>> You misread my statement. Nobody needs to be convinced of the usefulness of 
>> such a feature (at least for what concerns myself). Somebody needs to come 
>> up 
>> with a solid proposal which then needs to be implemented. That is what I 
>> meant 
>> by saying "Feel free to propose something [..]".
> 
>>> One other change that might be interesting would be the addition of a
>>> setting for how much the advertised throughput affects gw selection.
>>> I've seen Jan uses 96/96Mbit as advertised throughput on one router; I
>>> do the same on our "main gateway", but maybe it would be better if we
>>> could actually advertise the real throughput and have a setting to
>>> control how much the bandwidth difference affects the selection.
>> 
>> Again, feel free to propose something which can be discussed.
> 
> It could just be implemented as a new setting like: gw_bw_weight
> 
> which would regulate how much gw bandwidth/throughput affects best gw
> calculation.
> 
> I don't know what's the current algorithm but I guess there would be no
> problem with backwards compatibility here; if the value is not set, the
> default should produce the same result we get now.
> 
> 
> So to make the proposal clear:
> 
> I'd change options for gw_mode client to something like this:
> 
> gw_sel_class [1|2] (1 considers TQ and bw, 2 only considers TQ)
> 
> gw_tq_threshold [3...256]
> the minimum TQ delta to switch to a better gw, defaults to 20.
> 
> gw_bw_weight [value from 0 to 1]
> how much does advertised gw bandwidth affect the selection. 0 does not
> affect selection, 1 has most effect. Defaults to 1 but has no effect if
> gw_sel_class is 2.
> 
> For backwards compatibility, if gw_sel_class > 2, it should behave as
> the proposed option 2 with gw_tq_threshold set to the actual value. So,
> for example gw_sel_class 20 would be "translated" to: gw_sel_class 2,
> gw_tq_threshold 20, al least until it's deprecated.


I guess, we'll be fine with this. However, it's not clear to me, in what way 
(formula) gw_bw_weight will actually influence the selection process.
Do you have any proposals?

Thanks
Keep smiling
yanosz

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