And one more question: How are the IPv4 addresses assigned? Static
configuration or via DHCP? If the latter, what is your current
lease timeout and would it be an option to lower it?

Regards, Linus


On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 05:01:23PM +0000, Robert Bates wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is it possible to have b.a.t.m.a.n. ARP if packets are received at bat0 for a 
> client which has been removed/deleted due to timeout, and is therefore no 
> longer in the translation tables?
> 
> In one customer application of a product of ours (a mesh AP we've licensed 
> from another vendor/developer, which is based on openWRT/b.a.t.m.a.n.), we 
> are being adversely affected by the 10 minute inactivity timer on 
> transtable_local.   The clients in this customer's network/application are 
> stationary devices which basically do not speak unless spoken to (e.g. when 
> they are polled for data).  They are periodically polled by a management 
> platform, using an upper layer protocol running over TCP.  The problem is 
> that this customer's polling cycle time is variable, and occasionally it is 
> taking longer than 10 minutes between successive polls of a given 
> client/device.  When this happens, that client is of course removed from 
> transtable_local, and transtable_global on the other nodes in the mesh.  
> Meanwhile, the polling/management platform has a very long ARP cache life, so 
> it never ARPs (and apparently it is not possible on this platform to have the 
> customer implement dynamic, rather than static ARP table entries, in which it 
> would ARP upon polling failure).  So once we get into this state, polls to 
> this client device which has dropped out of the mesh are not possible, and 
> their management platform throws alarms, etc.  To bring it back in service at 
> that point requires an ARP, which the customer is manually triggering with a 
> ping, whenever one of these "outages" occurs.
> 
> We know that the transtable_local inactivity/removal timer value can be 
> extended, and we will probably do that, but we would also like to know if it 
> is possible to have b.a.t.m.a.n. ARP for the removed client in this case.  We 
> prefer this approach, rather than arbitrarily changing the tt_local timer to 
> some value which may not work well in some other customer's 
> network/application.  I know that there is a statistically valid underlying 
> assumption with this 10 minute inactivity timer on transtable_local, that 
> clients will typically be "chatty".  But again, that is not the case in this 
> application, which is a very common one in the industry in which we operate, 
> where clients are very often fixed devices which only respond to explicit 
> queries or commands.  This is a new product and protocol for us, and this 
> could beg the question of whether or not b.a.t.man.-based meshing is the 
> right solution in this type of application.  We believe it can be; it would 
> just be helpful if we can configure it to ARP in this type of scenario.
> 
> Can you please comment on how this might be possible (config or otherwise)?
> 
> Thanks very much,
> Robert Bates
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