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In my view the copyright law was written to make sure that the creator was paid their dues...... this argument is all about not using any of the content because no one knows who to pay and how much to pay. The creators will therefore lose money from other new streams of revenue.... it isn't about posturing, look at the music business, non-copyrighted music is beginning to be used instead. On 3 Nov 2005, at 13:38, Graeme Mulvaney wrote: This argument sounds similar to the debats rattling around about the rights to broadcast the 1996 and 2000 olympic games on-line. The ultimate solution was for the rights holders to designate the Internet as a novel communications stream and to auction rights for it accordingly. There's no point beating the BBC up about it - it's out of their hands - hell, even Google had to accept that no amount of posturing will get around copyright. On 11/3/05, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's also complicated by the fact that there aren't just rights in the
TV programme, there are all kind of underlying rights (ie, copyright on
things that appear in programme) that might need to be cleared as well.
Literary - a script, for drama; poetry, quotations, song lyrics, book
readings etc
Works of art - might include buildings, logos etc, plus Photographs (and
photographs of works of art have two sets of copyright...)
Stagings - I think, called grand rights - for things like choreography
etc
Music rights - both in the composition, and the performances
Typography - ie, the layout of an edition of a book, even if the
original text is out of copyright.
An interesting case in point is the Daleks - the BBC owns the rights in
the way they look, but the estate of Terry Nation owns the rights in the
character and the way they behave. So if you wanted to use the image of
a dalek you'd have to clear the rights with the BBC, but if you wanted
to animate it to make it move and go 'Exterminate!' you'd also need to
clear with the estate.
http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/indetail/ownership.htm
"Copyright in a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work (including
a photograph) lasts until 70 years after the death of the author. The
duration of copyright in a film is 70 years after the death of the last
to survive of the principal director, the authors of the screenplay and
dialogue, and the composer of any music specially created for the film.
Sound recordings are generally protected for 50 years from the year of
publication. Broadcasts are protected for 50 years and published
editions are protected for 25 years. For copyright works created outside
the UK or another country of the European Economic Area, the term of
protection may be shorter. There may also be differences for works
created before 1 January 1996."
So - even if the broadcast copyright has expired, it's no guarantee that
the underlying rights have...
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly
Sent: 02 November 2005 22:23
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; Andrew Bowden
Subject: RE: [backstage] Backstage - Stagnant
At 12:57 +0100 26/10/05, Andrew Bowden wrote:
> > Are there old shows in your archive that have had their
>> copyrights expire? If so, there's no reason they can't be placed
>> up right now, other then potentially bandwidth. (To which I'd say
>> that you should offer them via torrent -- you keep running the
>> tracker and a single seed, and let the mob
> > effect take care of the rest.)
>
>IIRC it takes 50 years for the copyright to expire so that puts us in
>1955.
It is not a copyright issue, per se. It is a rights issue. Digital
rights.
Here is an succinct description of "The duration of copyright" from
http://tyler.hrc.utexas.edu/uk.cfm
<quot>
The time period for copyright has grown continually longer over the
last three centuries. Many think it is now absurdly long. In Britain
the Copyright Act of 1842 introduced the idea of post mortem
copyright protection; it established a copyright period of 42 years
from the date of first publication or 7 years after the author's
death, whichever was the longer. The Copyright Act of 1911 extended
the period to 50 years after an author's death; and the European
Union Directive on Term of Copyright (adopted by the UK on 1 January
1996) further extended the standard period to 70 years p.m.a. Thus in
2004 works by authors who died in 1934 or any year thereafter remain
"in copyright".
</quot>
Gordo (born 1955)
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