Hi Andrew,

Thanks - World Service is working for me, as are all the unicast streams
returned by the API.

Pete.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland
> Sent: 17 November 2006 12:42
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
> 
> Hi Pete,
> 
> I've updated the streams - all seem to be working, apart from World
> Service
> at the moment.
> 
> > So multi-cast is more reliable? Perhaps its time for me to go back to
> the
> > multi-cast modem - though I thought that was all 'trial' as well.
> 
> The multicast stuff is still a trial, it's more we're trying to show
> people
> what you can do with it, like the AJAX application combining the API
> and the
> streams [1].  Also, as well as the live content we've tried
> multicasting and
> carouselling the TV-Anytime data.
> 
> > Being cheeky - is there anything that is reliable - other than html
> > scraping? I just hate scraping stuff, but I do see that in all your
> sample
> > widgets'n'things they seem to use radio streams gleaned from the web
> site
> > (e.g. the wmp streams) rather than from any API/public listing. The
> benefit
> > of being on the inside I suppose.
> 
> I may be on the inside, but it's a rather large organisation, so it
> doesn't
> mean I have access to everything.  http://www.dave.org.uk/streams/
> seems
> like a useful resource...
> 
> Andrew
> BBC Research
> 
> [1] http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/examples/ajax/doc.html
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 04:00:29PM -0000, Pete Cole wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > > When I get a chance I'll update the streams.
> >
> > If you could, I'll be grateful - the widget competition winner is a
> rather
> > useless without them and whilst it may not be overloading your
> servers I
> > know there are (were) a few people using it regularly.
> >
> > > Due to us mainly using the data and multicast streams,
> > > we haven't tracked the changes in the unicast streams.
> >
> > So multi-cast is more reliable? Perhaps its time for me to go back to
> the
> > multi-cast modem - though I thought that was all 'trial' as well.
> >
> > Being cheeky - is there anything that is reliable - other than html
> > scraping? I just hate scraping stuff, but I do see that in all your
> sample
> > widgets'n'things they seem to use radio streams gleaned from the web
> site
> > (e.g. the wmp streams) rather than from any API/public listing. The
> benefit
> > of being on the inside I suppose.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Pete.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland
> > > Sent: 16 November 2006 13:44
> > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
> > >
> > > Hi Pete,
> > >
> > > > Indeed. Is there any sign of this service moving from
> prototype/beta
> > > to
> > > > something more/less?
> > >
> > > Good question.  I've talked to a few people a month or so ago about
> a
> > > properly supported public facing API to our schedule data.  The
> summary
> > > is
> > > that there is a desire to do it, but there is no definite timescale
> > > (yet).
> > >
> > > > On the particular issue of streams it fascinates me that there
> seem
> > > to be
> > > > so many - I presume the feeds listed by the API are somehow
> different
> > > from
> > > > the main site feeds (Radio 1 has been down for quite a while
> now).
> > >
> > > This is easier.  The API was set up a while ago and we entered the
> > > streams
> > > as they stood at the time.  Due to us mainly using the data and
> > > multicast
> > > streams, we haven't tracked the changes in the unicast streams.
> Sorry.
> > > So
> > > do let us know when you find things going wrong, we're not always
> aware
> > > of
> > > them.  When I get a chance I'll update the streams.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > > BBC Research
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 02:46:27PM -0000, Pete Cole wrote:
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > > This is the fun with experimental prototypes, eh?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On the particular issue of streams it fascinates me that there
> seem
> > > to be so
> > > > many - I presume the feeds listed by the API are somehow
> different
> > > from the
> > > > main site feeds (Radio 1 has been down for quite a while now).
> > > >
> > > > Pete.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
> > > McParland
> > > > > Sent: 15 November 2006 10:44
> > > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Pete,
> > > > >
> > > > > You're right, the problem with the API (and backstage
> > > > > TV-Anytime files) missing certain days of Radio 4 has now been
> > > fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the report on the streams, there does seem to be a
> > > > > problem - I'll investigate.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the fun with experimental prototypes, eh?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > > BBC Research
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:49:52PM -0000, Pete Cole wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This (Radio Four listing) problem seems to have gone away,
> > > > > but some of
> > > > > > the real audio streams listed by the API don't seem to work
> > > > > (they give
> > > > > > the ever helpful 'General Error'). I haven't checked 'em all,
> but
> > > > > > radio 1,2,3 and 4 seem 'dead' but 5 live is OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pete Cole.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> > > > > > > McParland
> > > > > > > Sent: 14 November 2006 10:03
> > > > > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mario,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for reporting this.  I'll investigate further.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > > BBC Research
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:15:29PM +0000, Mario Menti
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi - there seems to be a problem with the Web API and
> Radio
> > > > > > > Four data
> > > > > > > > at the
> > > > > > > > moment:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Try
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes
> > > > > > > .h
> > > > > > > > tmland select Radio Four - I get  "Code 152, no matches
> > > > > > > found". Other
> > > > > > > > radio and TV channels seem to be OK.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Probably just temorary, but thought I'd mention it
> anyway..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Mario.
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