Hi Richard,

I appreciate the time you took on that, and that you didn't take my 
early-morning tappings the wrong way.

Yes, of course you are right: one of my current nags is the Beeb's 
concentration on Sky and comparative ignorance of Freeview and Media Centre.... 
 

What it really comes down to, I imagine, is pragmatics forced by financial 
considerations.
The BBC are trying to find a way of releasing the archive, and I know that 
members of the top brass are consulting with the likes of Google, MSN, big VCs. 
I imagine the eventual outcome will be that a Blue Chip partnership will 
provide servers and bandwidth in exchange for ... our very souls. Or the right 
to incorporate the BBC-branded content into their MCE-friendly services. I hope 
that those in Beeb involved realise the power the BBC with this content, and 
don't undersell themselves or do something silly like sell everything off and 
then lease it back...

Whatever happens, there will be a torrent or two ....

-- 
Lee Goddard

Independent Contractor, Software Development/Analysis
BBC Radio * Room 718 · Henry Wood Hs · Regents St · London W1 1AA · * 020 776 
50849 ? lee(at)server-sidesystems.ltd.uk

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Edwards
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:49 AM
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [backstage] Psiphon
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> I accept your points, at the same time though, the British 
> are being sold on this idea of privacy with a number, an ID 
> number. Well, as a public Corporation the BBC could reverse 
> that thinking and treat us all as UK residents wherever we 
> are in the world already...... it is still far easier to find 
> people that you can trust, than to be weighed down by the 
> thoughts of people that you cannot.
> That is pandering to the lowest common denominator.
> The benefits far out-weigh the negatives for a closer social 
> community.
> I think it is a shame that all that power goes to support the 
> tiny worse case scenario.
> As far as I am aware, every song on TOTP up until 1983 was 
> re-recorded so that the BBC owned the rights of broadcast.... 
> in the charter it clearly states that the BBC must distribute 
> its content to the UK public..... so where is all that music 
> that "I payed for" :-) I am sure that similar can be said for 
> BBC TV. All they would have to do is say publically that 
> "such and such" a show was going to be aired on the net, in 
> not best quality, and that the original producer would be 
> payed X. If he doesn't agree - fine - but right now is anyone 
> asking that question? 
> If you can see a matrix of good honest people, the vast 
> majority, across the planet, all UK residents if you want, 
> all hosting bits of a show and streaming it, then the BBC 
> doesn't have to host anything..... it simply has to control 
> the first issue and the delivery mechanism. Which is exactly 
> what it is trying to do now.... along with Sky, ITV etc.
> The first lines do not have political leanings, please excuse 
> me if it comes across that way. I am not interested in 
> negative or political social engineering, but take a look, 
> the fact is that it is happening all around us right now.
> 
> Richard
> 
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2006, at 09:52AM, "Lee Goddard" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From P Edwards (Monday, November 27, 2006 11:19 PM):
> >
> >> I think it is pretty laughable :-)
> >> 
> >> I am very happy to pay for quality and expensive programming, but 
> >> being censored from the same, just because of a legal 
> precedent, is 
> >> almost the ultimate insult, especially if one does have a UK TV 
> >> license.
> >> In my hallucination, it should take one person within 
> Auntie's legal 
> >> department about a month to change the contracts for content 
> >> production, add some budget for servers and bandwidth, to make the 
> >> biggest change to how the BBC works since radio gave way 
> to black and 
> >> white TV.
> >
> >Probably less time, but I guess the problems isn't that the 
> Beeb can't find the time for contract-updating. I imagine 
> every recording has associated contracts and releases, and 
> often after the initial broadcast and an agreed number of 
> re-broadcastings, the artist release evaporates, and the 
> rights revert to the performers.
> >
> >
> >> I can hear the voices of resistance still. There is 
> absolutely no reason not to....
> >
> >Hosting all that media, not to mention distributing it at a 
> reasonable rate, is not going to be cheap.
> >
> >
> >> So where exactly did all this "locking out" and streaming certain 
> >> content to certain places come from? Big brother? :-)
> >
> >It certainly annoyed me when in Cologne: I could watch 
> Planet Earth but 
> >not the website. On the other hand, I would be more annoyed 
> if, after 
> >paying my TV Tax/Licence, I couldn't watch the website because the 
> >bandwidth is consumed by people outside the UK who don't pay 
> for it.  
> >Maybe that's selfish of me :)
> >
> > 
> >> How about leading the way with both feet in to a new world of a 
> >> really universal BBC on the net, with none of the boundaries? The 
> >> opposite to the TV world.
> >
> >To be fair, it is the British Broadcasting Corporation, not 
> Universal 
> >;) Flippant, but I do think that it is not the job of the 
> British Broadcasting Corporation to be addressing the world 
> (save the World Service, World news channel): rather, 
> shouldn't Auntie be taking care of broadcasting to the British people?
> >
> > 
> >> I'm sure that a way could be programmed to reverse Psiphon or the 
> >> like, with something like real-time P2P to distribute the 
> feeds via a 
> >> massive server of "trusted" associates, now that would be exciting.
> >
> >Doesn't P2P tend to distribute the lowest common 
> denominator? So it'd still be hard to find my little history 
> documentaries online.
> >
> >
> >> I'll pay and deliver, how's that? I hope that the future is MAC 
> >> addresses, not IP's.
> >
> >It's much easier to spoof a MAC address than an IP address, though.
> >
> >
> >Lee "I rather like Mark Thompson" Goddard Not a BBC Employee....
> >
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