So it looks like, RESTful I guess XML-RPC lost out in everything except blogging and SOAP is still too painful for most people. Standardised So for example if we embedded everything in the ATOM syntax you would like that? Or did you mean something else? Well Documentated. Yep, and I really like the idea of a wiki which you guys can also edit. Formats. My feelings is XML makes a lot of sense. JSON, well I know its gotten much love recently but... YAML? does anyone actually use this? I thought JSON did away with YAML? Also who's offering this as a webservice? Developer system Yes we will require some kind of authentication system and I guess this is where the real debate goes. What kind of interactions would you prefer? How would you feel about us having some developer key system, maximum amount of calls a day, authentication? What have you seen which you like? I remember Flickr was a pain because you couldn't find your dev key easily, while Amazon had a dev token and authentication. Technorati's limit of 1000 calls a day is ok but how do people feel about the result once you go over the limit? Should error messages use http states or return errors in xml? Thoughts?
Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Rodger Sent: 06 December 2006 15:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] The best WebAPIs I must agree with the Flickr fans. In my opinion if it's; RESTian Standardised Well documented Choice of output formats (JSON, YAML, XML etc.) An open wiki to supplement the docs It'll do for me. Will the BBC require developer keys or authentication?. Gareth Rodger W: http://www.garethrodger.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6 Dec 2006, at 12:58, Neil Roberts wrote: >>which API's have you used which were a joy to use and why? I really like the flickr because they offer a simple api for non-techies in the form of the badge, which even my dad can use (this is a man they type with one finger and that's not one finger on each hand but just one finger). This makes the content really accessible which is important. And on the other end of the spectrum they offer api's that for the true developer that allow you to achieve things like this http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/06/08/index4a_page2.html For me this is awesome becuse it not only shows their content up in a good light. It promotes flickr and can inform their service development; all things that I think backstage is trying to do for the BBC. Important things that I have found useful but may not fall into the realm of api for some people is: For the novice: Restful/guessable/hackable URLs A range of simple standard RSS feeds Examples and easy to use interfaces eg: flickr badge For the not so novice: Parameterised RSS feeds HTTP implemention is always good but the technology in my opinion should be the one that can be used by the most people. Good documentation and often the best documentation is not found on the providers site but on people's blogs, so making the documentation an open wiki would help. neil On 12/6/06, Mr I Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Right Calm down everyone! :) Lets put the debate on hold for now (although I was tempted to throw in a line about the GPL3 drafts). I don't know about everyone else, but I personally think this could make a good podcast if I got a few of you in a room together. Anyway, Its almost 2007 and I wanted to ask a question to the list. One of the things you really want more of, is more BBC API's. Well were working on that but I wanted to ask which API's have you used which were a joy to use and why? Is the documentation, API naming, structuring, amount of data given away or something else? For example, for me Flickr's API is great but I love the security of Del.icio.us. The documentation on Flickr is also very easy to follow and understand while the ability to run XSL serverside on Amazon's servers has been useful. Google Data/Base is very interesting being just ATOM based and I can certainly see more APIs using ATOM as a base result response in the future. Don't worry guys we can pick up the Free Software debate later... Ian Forrester | backstage.bbc.co.uk | cubicgarden.com Laurence Samuels wrote: > You explained these a long time ago, and you kept on repeating what > did not amount to new knowledge. I hope you wont reply to this email. > If you do, I wont reply to the list, I might reply to you privately. > > L - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- "I like work: it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours."