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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore
> Sent: 11 January 2007 17:27
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds of the BBC TV subtitles?
>
> Actually there's a really interesting internal trial running
> across our ROT (Record of Transmission) service, that does
> speech recognition across an audio stream (TV and Radio) then
> indexes it to the relevant part of the broadcast file... It's
> really handy, and because it's a phonetic search engine -
> actually very useful once you get into your head that English
> is the most un-phonetic language in the world.
>
> I'm working very hard on trying to make a sub-set of this
> data (Five Live over a week) available in a few formats in
> connection with the latest call to arms - the Five Live
> Partnership -
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/01/five_live_partn.html
>
> But once you've got that stream... What are you going to do with it?
I thought I said...
I am thinking that you might have an RSS feed from the third party which
takes a key phrase and translates it a list of times that phrase has
occurred. It would be useful for localization (type in the name of a town
or city, ie "Leeds" or "Berwick"), companies ("Centrica", "BT"), people
("Tony Blair", "Anne Robinson"), diseases ("RSI", "arachnophobia"), products
("threeplay", "Barclaycard") and so on.
And goto when the clock shows '04:40' in this Click program...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/mediaselector/onlinesubtitles/click
/click?size=16x9&bgc=FF3300&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&st=1
For FiveLive then it could link into the 'listen again' system. Just need
an index of broadcast time -> listen again filename and ofset, please!
>
> m
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian
> Butterworth
> Sent: 11 January 2007 14:02
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds of the BBC TV subtitles?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore
> > Sent: 11 January 2007 13:42
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds of the BBC TV subtitles?
> >
> > On 11/01/07, Matthew Somerville
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Brian Butterworth wrote:
> > > > Does the Copyrights Designs and Patents Act 1988 cover
> > the subtitles
> > > > associated with a TV channel? Would implementing a
> > "search" feed,
> > > > rather than a complete feed be OK with the Act?
> > >
> > > I would guess (IANAL) subtitles are part of the work, so would be
> > > copyrighted for things like dramas (as it's basically the spoken
> > > section of the script, more if it includes noises), and you
> > might have
> > > fair use for news broadcasts and the like. Google seems to think
> > > storing everything for search is okay, so you might be
> okay there...
> >
> > I'd guess we could implement a search feed without infringing
> > copyright. But in my experience they don't work too well, since you
> > really need to see the context in which a word was used to
> judge its
> > relevence - and showing the context in text would infringe.
>
> Once the iPlayer is up and running (again) then having the
> program name and an ofset would be useful.
>
> At what point would it be illegal to show the context? Would
> be wrong if the current sentence was use? The current paragraph?
>
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