Hey Rich ++++++ Oh. Right. Sorry. "wouldn't struggle with how to make money from its work."
I'm sure there's a distinction between that and "would be able to come up with a different business model" ++++++++ There is a distinction because I'm not saying that people "would be able to come up with a different business model". I'm saying that the struggle to make money shows a lack of creative thinking. Maybe no one can come up with a way to make money (other than using DRM as a cosh) - though I think that's unlikely. The problem probably comes in "media people" expecting a disproportionate return on what they do. They think they're producing something scarce (but in truth everyone has some creative talent) but all they are producing is more of a long line of similar things that have gone before. Look at the BBC: at the moment it is running its pictures in Britain thing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/britain/ This has a lot of "creative" content from people all over the country... people who aren't getting paid for their creativity. A lot of what is being produced is as good/interesting as anything you see from the BBC itself or photography professionals. The vast majority of media content is just normal stuff: someone singing, someone playing music, someone acting, etc - it doesn't take much skill and it certainly is not a scare and valuable resource. My initial response was to the poster who said that creativity is scarce and therefore valuable .... My reply was to say it isn't scarce and therefore not valuable. There may be a few exceptions of true creativity ... but they are few and far between. Calvin Coolidge got it right in his shot across the bows to people who think they are somehow unique or special: <<"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not - the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and will always solve the problems of the human race.">> Not arguing with you, but I wasn't saying there is a different business model out there. I was just pointing out that "media creativity" isn't a scarce/valuable resource ... if the original poster is claiming creative scarcity for the foundation of their argument, then their argument is sunk. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:41 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Oh. Right. Sorry. "wouldn't struggle with how to make money from its work." I'm sure there's a distinction between that and "would be able to come up with a different business model" Cheers, Rich. > << Here we go again with the "there are plenty of other ways to make > money" / "loads of other business models" argument. >> > > Just for the sake of accuracy ... I didn't actually say either of the above. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:19 PM > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info > > > > > > > If the media was truly creative, it wouldn't struggle with how to make > money > > from its work. It is a confusion on the part of the media folk to think > that > > their work is somehow creative and unique. > > > > Here we go again with the "there are plenty of other ways to make > money" / "loads of other business models" argument. No-one yet has > mentioned one (and that includes that MP3 site that Dave C mentioned > earlier - there's a good reason they can be pretty sure no-one's going > to illegally share their music. Not with people they like anyway. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
