I'm sorry Jonathan, I've read this a few times now and I don't understand your question: "maybe you are considering the webcam question doesn't need to be switch accessible?"
This is an interesting subject for me, could you ask the question another way please? Thanks S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' ????????????" Sent: 15 October 2007 09:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] flash accessibility Simon & Jason, maybe you are considering the webcam question doesn't need to be switch accessible? of course that makes the user dependent on others and is 'frustrating' to say the least... Camino 2007101201 2.0a1pre, the smaller window pops open, but seems to close immediately regards Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 15 Oct 2007, at 08:45, Simon Cobb wrote: Ah... Apple, the champions of open technology and freedom of the user to choose. Your choice of computer kind of invalidates your righteous anger at commerical vendors, no? Of course, I'm just being mischevious :) Because Flash is my business, I had to go and check your claims on the Mac on our testbench. I'll give you that INTG doesn't work in IE on the Mac. But really, who is using IE/ Mac? Is it realistic for anyone to have to support it in 2007? Certainly, cbeebies client statistics agree, showing almost 100% using a windows based browser. Further, I've also found through my research on Flash accessibility that almost all users with accessibility requirements would also usually use a windows-based machine. As for the INTG freeze on IE/ Mac, if you want my best guess, I'd say that IE/ Mac is unable to allow Flash to perform the operating system check at the start of the INTG application. If so, it's ironic because this os check was especially put in for Mac users. Some Macs have a built-in webcam that users might not be aware is on and thus be baffled when the webcam parts of the game show unexepected views. In order that the application's functionality was most accessible to all Mac users, this check makes sure the user can nominate the webcam to use. Lastly, for what it's worth, Cbeebies client stats show that almost 100% of visitors use windows-based machines. "space and return don't work in any browser" Got to refute that - I just used it in Safari and it worked just fine. Works in ubuntu linux (my daughter loves this game), works on a windows machine. I'd say that just about covers it for access unless through choice you have made flash unavailable. S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' ????????????" Sent: 13 October 2007 06:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] flash accessibility Some BBC staff have been known to trumpet the accessibility features of flash. the BBC is also known to have tied itself into this commercial vendor. Can someone explain why on my OS X machine at least the supposedly switch accessible: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/inthenightgarden/flash/index.shtml space and return don't work in any browser and IE crashes cheers Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/