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Dave Crossland wrote:
> On 19/11/2007, Nick Reynolds-A&Mi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Also you can 
> comment here:> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/groklaw_interview.html
> Good point :-)
> Ashley said, "Well, they started from the principle of, "We just don'tknow 
> the way this market is going to develop. We don't want any of ourcontent to 
> be made available." A lot of the rights holders are not atall familiar with 
> this world. They are often writers, or directors, orproducers—and for them, 
> **they can see that this world hasopportunity, but they also see that it has 
> great risk of underminingtheir current business.** And so this is something 
> that we've had totake them on a journey with. And the initial point was, 
> yes,convincing them that **the content was well-protected, that once 
> theyunderstood enough about copyright and digital rights management towant to 
> be assured that the content would be available free within theUK but not 
> freely copying available outside the UK.** And we hadauditors in to 
> demonstrate that that was the case."
> This reminded me of something Eben Moglen said 
> athttp://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2420/stories/20071019507610000.htm :
> "What's happening is that, at one and the same time, the digitalrevolution is 
> offering capitalists the undreamt of **possibility thatthey can continue to 
> charge large prices for goods that have no costof manufacture and 
> distribution.** That is the bonanza. That isperfection for capitalism. Profit 
> becomes the whole of the price. It'sa very great dream for them.
> "At the same time, they are facing the **possibility of complete ruinif we 
> move to a voluntary distribution system in which they no longerown anything** 
> but perform services to creators. Because then, indistributing culture, they 
> must compete with children and lovers andpeople who distribute culture just 
> because they want to. So there is acompetitive crisis building.
> "On the one hand, their pay-off matrix shows in the positive side somevery 
> large numbers. And on the negative side, their pay-off matrixshows equally 
> large negative numbers. **There is no saddle point inthis game,** the game 
> theoreticians would say. The game itself doesnot give you an optimum strategy.
> "There are two possibilities: they have superior force, and so theycoerce the 
> game to the cells in which they win. Or we have superiorforce in which case 
> they must change their way of doing business.Unfortunately, there is really 
> no choice in the middle. The middlebecomes hard to hold because the ends are 
> so attractive.
> "So, international capital at one and the same time sees that it 
> hasopportunities beyond its wildest dreams and it has challenges thatmight 
> put it out of business. This produces that same uneasiness thatbeset capital 
> when it first encountered the communist movement in themiddle of the 19th 
> century. And so I took the moment at which itencountered communism and I 
> changed a few words to show how it worksat the opening of the 20th century. 
> And the spectre of freeinformation that haunts capitalism now is like the 
> spectre ofcommunism that haunted it in the 19th century with just one 
> exception;this one works. The communists of 1867 were writing about 
> somethingthat they hoped to do. We are writing about the spreading out 
> ofsomething we have already done. This one is already showing that itcan 
> happen."
> Interesting times :-)
> -- Regards,Dave
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