On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone else find it odd *ALL* the BBC rights holders are demanding
> exactly the same thing? Sounds a lot like a Cartel to me. (I Am Not a
> Lawyer)


They're not; we have a complicated rights situation which make things rather
more difficult. Just in radio, there are different rules with live versus
pre-recorded music as an example, which makes getting the rights correct for
the Radio Player quite difficult. Indeed, we normally try to attempt to get
all the rights holders to accept the same thing, to offer as uniform a
service as we can (both "how it looks to the user" and "how we do it
internally"). Normally this means compromise on both sides.


>
>
> > 2. For those larger files that we do have rights to (like podcasts), the
> > leading podcatchers, like iTunes, don't come with Torrent support
>
> That's iTunes problem isn't it. People with a lot less money than the
> BBC seem to have grasped how to provide multiple formats, it's not
> that difficult. What you need is some kind of script (you could even
> use make, apt-get build-essential on your eeePC should do the trick).


People with a lot less content, yes. But we're not talking about formats
here; we're talking about server infrastructure; and there is nobody with
more content than the BBC. (Yes, Youtube, but that's different).

Thanks for the info on tracking stuff; interesting.

>  5. We'd really not want to push people through hoops to download new
> > software just to consume our content*, especially given that we've a lot
> of
> > less tech-savvy users than an average site
>
> iPlayer, Kontiki, RealPlayer, Flash, WMP?


iPlayer is not a download.
Kontiki is, and yes, I don't understand that one.
RealPlayer - agreed
Flash is almost universally installed by every user; I think we're happy
with that.
Windows Media Player is pre-installed on every Windows machine (nearly).

The future is something that "just works" with as few downloads as possible;
which is what I'm aiming for. Visit virginradio.co.uk/listen, and the player
will use Windows (if you're using MSIE and Windows) or Flash otherwise, just
as an example - for most users it "just works". It won't come as a surprise
that I want something similar here. Give me time, I've got more content to
deal with, and systems and processes that are a tad slower.

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