----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Dumaresq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Zemlicka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup VM


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Zemlicka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup VM
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>> What about the backup state option in vmware?  Does this help alleviate 
>> your
>> concerns.
>
> Didin't see it. I'll have to check. I'm glad to talk with people that 
> already work with vmware server. I'm new with useing it as a master 
> server. I have though guy 2 Hardware and use some sync to have a salve 
> server that can bu if the master go down. But this is very too costly for 
> our need. So at the worst case, we will run some major server VM into one 
> of our regular pc.
>
> Jonathan
>>
>> _____________________________
>> Stephen Zemlicka
>> Integrated Computer Technologies
>> PH. 608-558-5926
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Wilhelm Soderstrom
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:54 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup VM
>>
>> On 09/07 12:39 , Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
>>> I like the idea of backing up the vmware image.  That way you have very
>>> little restore time.  Just copy and you're up and running.  No reconfig
>>> necessary.  If you use rsync, shouldn't it just copy the changed data? I
>>> understand files on the image might move around but majority should stay
>> the
>>> same and therefore the data wouldn't have to be copied for each backup.
>>
>> we'd like to think that, but my experience does not bear that out. that
>> said, I haven't done strict scientific tests.
>>
>> you're right; restoring the vmware image is a very convenient thing; but
>> unless it's been quiesced (i.e. shut down) you can't guarantee a 
>> consistent
>> state. I've gotten away with restoring 'live' vmware images from backup
>> (tape backup, way back when); but I wouldn't recommend it.
>>
>> if you want easy restores of a vmware image; build some sort of mechanism
>> that shuts down the vmware guest instance, then does a backup of the 
>> image,
>> then starts the vmware guest again. our web developer at work does this 
>> for
>> his Windows session, keeping the old copies around (bzip2'ed) in case he
>> needs to revert. you do sacrifice a lot of speed for this ease and
>> simplicity of recovery tho.
>>
>> -- 
>> Carl Soderstrom
>> Systems Administrator
>> Real-Time Enterprises
>> www.real-time.com
>>
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