Guys I really been struggling with shh and getting backuppc to log to the 
client with no password. Done it before but just cant remember  how (done it 
by luck). I just cant get my head around how the key stuff works and where 
you are suppose to generate the key? server side? were backuppc runs ? both 
machines? place the key where? I found some guides at google but its hard to 
follow when you don't know how its suppose to work.I just cant get my head 
around it. If  one could make a animated video of  where exactly the keys 
exchange. I will donate a reasonable amount to you or what ever oginisation 
you like. Please get back to me even if the answer is no, a yes would be 
great ;) I'm very greatfull to the backuppc creators Backuppc is simply the 
best *hands on heart*.
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>   1. Re: BackupPC install - worked for 4 days and nothing to do.
>      Then installed but rsync (Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom)
>   2. Re: BackupPC install - worked for 4 days and nothing to do.
>      Then installed but rsync (N.Pussini)
>   3. Re: How to delete a Backup (Les Mikesell)
>   4. Re: Backup files disappeared (Yaakov Chaikin)
>   5. Re: Windows backup question (Yaakov Chaikin)
>   6. 64Bit Systems Backup Problem Solved (Vince)
>   7. Unable to get multilevel incrementals working (John Rouillard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:25:08 -0500
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC install - worked for 4 days and
> nothing to do. Then installed but rsync
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On 10/31 05:19 , N.Pussini wrote:
>> Thanks to Carl I've managed to install It.
>> Now I'm working with rsync but when I try to start a full backup It
>> fails. The log reports:
>>
>> Backup failed on 192.168.100.110
>> </backuppc/index.cgi?host=192.168.100.110> (fileListReceive failed)
>
> If you su  to the 'backuppc' user; what do you get when you run:
> /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump -f -v <yourhost>
> ?
>
> <yourhost>== the name of the machine to be backed up, as it appears in 
> your
> /etc/backuppc/hosts file.
>
> -- 
> Carl Soderstrom
> Systems Administrator
> Real-Time Enterprises
> www.real-time.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:14:03 +0100
> From: "N.Pussini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC install - worked for 4 days and
> nothing to do. Then installed but rsync
> To: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Here is the result:
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
>        LANGUAGE = "it_IT:it:en_GB:en",
>        LC_ALL = (unset),
>        LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
>    are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> cmdSystemOrEval: about to system /bin/ping -c 1 192.168.100.110
> cmdSystemOrEval: finished: got output PING 192.168.100.110
> (192.168.100.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.100.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.511 ms
>
> --- 192.168.100.110 ping statistics ---
> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.511/0.511/0.511/0.000 ms
>
> cmdSystemOrEval: about to system /bin/ping -c 1 192.168.100.110
> cmdSystemOrEval: finished: got output PING 192.168.100.110
> (192.168.100.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.100.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.357 ms
>
> --- 192.168.100.110 ping statistics ---
> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.357/0.357/0.357/0.000 ms
>
> CheckHostAlive: returning 0.357
> full backup started for directory /home/clikka
> started full dump, share=/home/clikka
> Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root 192.168.100.110 /usr/bin/rsync
> --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D --links
> --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times .
> /home/clikka/
> Xfer PIDs are now 7086
> xferPids 7086
> The authenticity of host '192.168.100.110 (192.168.100.110)' can't be
> established.
> RSA key fingerprint is 4c:d3:ab:20:d8:b1:18:b8:70:47:cc:af:0d:78:1c:d5.
> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> Got remote protocol 29
> Negotiated protocol version 28
> Sent include: /home
> Sent include: /home/clikka
> Sent exclude: /*
> Sent exclude: /home/*
> Xfer PIDs are now 7086,7087
> xferPids 7086,7087
>  create d 755 1000/1000        4096 .
> Done: 0 files, 0 bytes
> Got fatal error during xfer (No files dumped for share /home/clikka)
> cmdSystemOrEval: about to system /bin/ping -c 1 192.168.100.110
> cmdSystemOrEval: finished: got output PING 192.168.100.110
> (192.168.100.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.100.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.269 ms
>
> --- 192.168.100.110 ping statistics ---
> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.269/0.269/0.269/0.000 ms
>
> cmdSystemOrEval: about to system /bin/ping -c 1 192.168.100.110
> cmdSystemOrEval: finished: got output PING 192.168.100.110
> (192.168.100.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.100.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.313 ms
>
> --- 192.168.100.110 ping statistics ---
> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.313/0.313/0.313/0.000 ms
>
> CheckHostAlive: returning 0.313
> Backup aborted (No files dumped for share /home/clikka)
> dump failed: No files dumped for share /home/clikka
>
>
> Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom ha scritto:
>> On 10/31 05:19 , N.Pussini wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to Carl I've managed to install It.
>>> Now I'm working with rsync but when I try to start a full backup It
>>> fails. The log reports:
>>>
>>> Backup failed on 192.168.100.110
>>> </backuppc/index.cgi?host=192.168.100.110> (fileListReceive failed)
>>>
>>
>> If you su  to the 'backuppc' user; what do you get when you run:
>> /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump -f -v <yourhost>
>> ?
>>
>> <yourhost>== the name of the machine to be backed up, as it appears in 
>> your
>> /etc/backuppc/hosts file.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:21:31 -0500
> From: Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to delete a Backup
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to have more informations about the deleting of backups.
>> I want to delete completly a full backup in order to do several tests
>> about time of backuping by the level of compression for backups.
>> So the aim of my tests is to do a full backup for one directory (with
>> differents files inside), several times to compare the time of backups
>> taking account the level of compression.
>>
>> I had several answers (and thank you for your help) and if I delete, the
>> host via the webinterface and the tree of files and the file of
>> configuration of the client (per-pc) on the server
>> and I configure again the host (completly), it doesn't work as I want.
>> The files aren't saved the second time. It is associated ("fusion" in
>> french) with the old file even if it was deleted.
>
> You probably aren't going to the the results you want unless you do this
> test on a different machine where you can remove all pooled files
> between runs.  Pooled files are only removed when the last link from any
> pc backup has been removed, so any files that are duplicated on other
> machines will remain (and be re-linked in the next run) even when you
> remove all the links from one machine.
>
>> I read that BackupPC_nightly must run to delete all links (if I
>> understood correctly).
>
> It deletes pooled files with no remaining links from pc backups.
>
>> There is another means to delete the links because I don't want to wait
>> the next day to do the next backup.
>
> If you can stop the backuppc service you can manually run BackuPC
> nightly anytime.  There is just some danger of a race condition if the
> service is running and new files are being linked while it runs.
>
> -- 
>   Les Mikesell
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:45:05 -0400
> From: "Yaakov Chaikin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup files disappeared
> To: "Craig Barratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Yes, the numbered backup is completely deleted. Backup #0 under the
> directory '0' is now the backup of the new configuration. I know the
> old backup was definitely there before. I know this because I browsed
> it through the Web interface. Then, I changed the configuration,
> restarted BackupPC service, went to the web interface and saw that
> Backup #0 for that machine was now the new stuff only. I was expecting
> to see the old configuration's Backup #0 and the new configuration's
> Backup #1. So, then, I decided to go straight to the disk and see
> what's in there. Sure enough, only the new configuration's files were
> there under '0' directory. There was nothing else numbered around.
>
> This naturally scared me... This was just tryout/playing around, but I
> have another machine that has been backed up for the last few
> months.... I have only 50 backups of that machine... I wouldn't want
> to accidentally do something to the configuration and see all of those
> backups disappear. That's the scary part.
>
> Can you explain this at all? Is this because the new machine is a
> Windows client??? I don't see how that should make any difference, but
> I don't know.
>
> Yaakov.
>
> On 10/31/07, Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yaakov writes:
>>
>> > When I changed which "shares" I wanted to backup (through samba
>> > client), the ones that were there already all backed up disappeared.
>> > They disappeared not just from the web-based interface, but after
>> > checking the actual back up location on the disk, I saw that they
>> > disappeared completely.
>> >
>> > Is this a normal behavior for BackupPC? I mean, if I accidentally
>> > change what I want backup and take out the configuration of what I was
>> > backing up before, it is supposed to get rid of every backup there was
>> > for the directory that I was backing up before???
>> >
>> > Seems like such an odd behavior! Just because I don't want to back up
>> > some directory anymore, doesn't mean I don't want the previous backups
>> > to still be there!
>>
>> This definitely shouldn't happen.  Other than chaning the expiry
>> schedule for backups, no configuration changes should cause a
>> backup to be deleted.
>>
>> Does the numbered backup directory still exist (eg, TOPDIR/pc/HOST/nnn)?
>> If so, are you saying it is now empty?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:19:50 -0400
> From: "Yaakov Chaikin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Windows backup question
> To: "Toni Van Remortel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 10/31/07, Toni Van Remortel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yaakov Chaikin wrote:
>> > The reason I am asking is that if I back up My Document once, which is
>> > 7GB, it's not such a big deal, but if I make it back it up every
>> > night, such that every night there is 7GB of data flying across the
>> > network, that won't be too good.
>> >
>> Why isn't it good that your network is used at night by your backup?
>> Otherwise it is just wasting energy, doing nothing, I suppose.
>> A network is ment to be used, and in my opinion, the network is for
>> backups at night and for working people during the day.
>
> I don't mind the network being used. I do mind, however, having a few
> Windows machines that can potentially have 10-15GB of data each
> sending such giant globs of data over the network when all that's
> changed is 15Mb. My understanding was that something like rsync
> wouldn't send the whole thing over even on a full backup. Am I wrong?
>
> It doesn't seem to me that I could call this "using" the network.
> Especially that some of these are laptops with wireless connection to
> the network. You think 1 night is enough to transfer 40GB over the
> wireless network? I doubt it... Even if it is, I might be up late
> working and get affected by such traffic... However, again, the
> biggest reason is really the fact that all of this is a waste of the
> networking resources when all you need is 15Mb transfer total.
>
>> > I looked into setting up rsync on Windows, but the problem is that I
>> > already have cygwin installed (I use it for other purposes) and the
>> > instructions don't explain how to setup rsync as a Windows service if
>> > you already have cygwin installed.
>> >
>> > So, in addition to my question above, does anyone know how to install
>> > rsync as a Windows service if you already have cygwin installed? I
>> > have rsync library installed as part of the cygwin installation at
>> > this point. Not sure what to do next.
>> >
>> Install cwrsync of deltacopy, they both use their own private cygwin
>> libraries without interrupting an existing cygwin installation.
>
> Where do I download these from?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Yaakov.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:25:53 -0700
> From: Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] 64Bit Systems Backup Problem Solved
> To: Backuppc Users <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just wanted to post a solution to a problem I was fighting for a
> while.  One of our servers that we were using backup pc to backup kept
> hanging.  Its a 64 Bit Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 4.5 box.  I finally
> figured out that the problem came from the supposed 1.2 Terabyte
> "/var/log/lastlog" file.  The file is a sparse file and not really 1.2TB
> but backup pc will try to compress all the null bytes and take far too
> long at it.  Read here for more info on the file:
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/2005-February/msg00165.html
>
> I have excluded that file from backup and now it works fine.
>
> Hope this helps other people with the same problem.
>
> -- 
>
> Vince                 |  Michael Smith Laboratories
> Systems Network Manager |  University of British Columbia
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:30:51 +0000
> From: John Rouillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] Unable to get multilevel incrementals
> working
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi all:
>
> I am running BackupPc 3.1.0beta0 with:
>
>  $Conf{IncrLevels} = [1, 2, 3];
>
> however, BackupPC always seems to run level 1 incrementals.
>
> E.G. from the web interface I see the following backups:
>
>   # Type Filled Level Start Date        Duration Age     Server Backup 
> Path
>   0 full yes    0     2007-10-24 20:50   33.8    7.0     [elided]
>   1 incr no     1     2007-10-24 22:19   0.7     6.9
>   2 full yes    0     2007-10-25 02:00   36.9    6.8
>   3 incr no     1     2007-10-25 02:43   17.1    6.7
>   4 incr no     1     2007-10-25 03:58   25.2    6.7
>   5 incr no     1     2007-10-25 04:33   16.1    6.7
>   6 full yes    0     2007-10-25 17:28   22.2    6.1
>   7 incr no     1     2007-10-26 02:57   14.6    5.7
>   8 incr no     1     2007-10-27 04:24   28.1    4.7
>   9 incr no     1     2007-10-28 04:00   34.4    3.7
>  10 incr no     1     2007-10-29 04:00   54.9    2.7
>  11 incr no     1     2007-10-30 07:00   34.5    1.6
>  12 incr no     1     2007-10-31 07:00   36.9    0.6
>
> My claim is that backup 8 should be level 2, backup 9 level 3, backup
> 10 level 1, backup 11 level 2 and backup 12 level 3.
>
> but that is obviously not what is happening. Anybody know why not?
>
> I am planning on full backups every 2 weeks or month and a standard
> tower of hanoi sequence (or maybe just 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10...) to
> minimize the amount of data that has to be pulled across the link.
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas as to why this isn't working.
>
> -- 
> -- rouilj
>
> John Rouillard
> System Administrator
> Renesys Corporation
> 603-643-9300 x 111
>
>
>
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