On Friday 29 June 2007 15:07, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 29.06.2007 12:31,, Kern Sibbald wrote::
> > On Friday 29 June 2007 11:58, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> just a short notice:
> >>
> >> The FD installs and runs.
> >> After modifying the firewall settings, it can be accessed from the 
> >> network. Could this modification be done by the installer?
> > 
> > Yes, that is quite possible.  The problem is that it requires someone to 
look 
> > into all the little details.  I may be able to get to it, but if any of 
the 
> > several Windows programmers that are currently working on Win32 
(separating 
> > the tray monitor, doing regression, ...)  would like to look at this, it 
> > would help me a lot.
> 
> Michaels suggestion seems to be all that's necessary, so this could be 
> done easily. I'm always kind of glad to hear about what you can do 
> with the command line tools belonging to Windows - Microsoft is quite 
> good at hiding them. At least I can't find any useful manual for netsh 
> with a windows installation...
> 
> >  There is also a bug report open on installing the SD on 
> > Win32, apparently, it puts a few files in unnecessary places and does not 
> > remove them -- nothing dramatic, but something to be cleaned up.
> 
> I'm rather sure I will *not* install the servers on a windows machine :-)
> 
> >> I started a first backup of my vista workstation, and up til now (the 
> >> first few hundred MB) things work. I'll now about the reparse points 
> >> not too soon - the disk holds amost 30 GB and I have no idea where 
> >> microsoft and HP wasted that much disk space :-)
> > 
> > Yes, I have the same problem.  If you let it do all the indexing and 
> > everything (I think it indexes into MSSQL, but I am just guessing), on my 
> > machine, it went up to 60GB.  As far as I can tell, they have a *lot* of 
> > software loaded, it is just not activated -- e.g. Microsoft Office, 
> 
> That, at least is not included with my computer. One thing less to 
> remove :-)
> But as I bought a notebook targeted at business users, that was 
> expected - typically, the business systems are not as full of useless 
> stuff as the consumer devices. But that varies, of course.

Yes, I am more or less in the same boat.

> 
> >...  In 
> > addition, I saw some really *monster*  movie files when I did my disk 
backup 
> > (before attempting a Linux installation -- just now).
> 
> Good hint... I haven't even looked at the sample media, but it's 
> definitely a good idea to remove them.
> 
> A funny thing is that the system backup, made with HP's tool as well 
> as Microsofts tool, isn't that big - 2 DVDs are enough.

Yes, I think they know how to exclude all the indexing files and possibly the 
non-licensed software.

> 
> I wonder what they left out :-)
> 
> > A couple of points: one, I think you pledged most of your fortune, and you 
> > also allow them to take anything they want from your machine whenever they 
> > want, and go into your machine when they want to check all the software on 
> > it -- at least that is how I read the license agreement.
> 
> Actually, as far as I know, that license is a piece of crap. I don't 
> have any contract with Microsoft, I've simply bought a computer from a 
> reseller (ok, a distributor, but that doesn't matter much). I didn't 
> sign any special contract with them, so Microsoft would have a hard 
> time insisting on the license agreement at court. That's German law, 
> of course.
> 
> >  Oh, in addition, 
> > the license is locked to a single machine.
> 
> Yes, I know. (They don't even add media to a windows installation 
> these days...). At least it's a Vista Business editition, so I may 
> legally install a copy of it in a VM on the same machine.

I believe that is true, providing it runs on only VM and not on the main 
machine.  They recently clarified their license on VMs, but since that is not 
my thing, I don't remember the details.

> 
> >  I think Microsoft may have shot 
> > themselves in the foot on this.  One thing is sure -- if I didn't need 
Vista 
> > for Bacula development, I certainly would not have it.
> 
> Well, I guess it won't be long until my customers use Vista, so it's 
> time to get acclimated a bit.

Hmmm. That is what I am doing with it.  I certainly would rather have XP Pro.

> 
> > Concerning Bacula, I expect that the backup will go well, but I have not 
yet 
> > tried a restore with the new daemon, so please use care.  I suspect that 
if 
> > you blow away your Vista installation, you will have to give Microsoft a 
lot 
> > to get a new activation key.
> 
> I hope that, in that case, the recovery data both on the recovery 
> partition as well as DVDs would work. I do not intend to try that on 
> the same disk, though...

Well, on my machine, I just loaded SuSE 10.2 and it recognized the windows 
partition and did not destroy it.  However SuSE after finishing the 
installation was unable to start kstartup (or whatever the program is).  That 
is it booted fine, but then could not get into KDE.  Since it did a poor job 
of recognizing my display size, I have given up on trying to load SuSE -- in 
any case, either the SuSE guys don't want to bother providing a kernel that 
can be used by a developer with the debugger, or they are incompetent, so if 
I stay with SuSE on my development machine, I'll load up a Red Hat kernel.

I'm trying to get SimplyMepis loaded now.  It seems to be going fine and did a 
much better job of recognizing my screen size.

Kern

> 
> 
> Arno
> 
> -- 
> Arno Lehmann
> IT-Service Lehmann
> www.its-lehmann.de
> 
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