On Thursday 10 November 2005 22:17, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what do we call this now? RFC? RFF? RTDAATARFC (Request To Discuss An
> Addition To A Request For Comment)?
Feature Request
>
> anyway...
I personally like RFC, because for me RFC means Request For Change and it is
used in this sense in a number of large shops. However, since there seems to
be some opposition to it, I've dropped it -- Feature Request.
>
> On 08.11.2005 15:19, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> ...
>
> > Concerning future development of Bacula:
> > As I noted in the 1.38 ReleaseNotes, version 1.38 was different from
> > prior versions because it had a lot more contributions. I expect that
> > this trend will continue. As a consequence, I am going to modify how I
> > normally do development, and instead of making a list of all the features
> > that I will implement in the next version, I will personally sign up for
> > one (maybe two) projects at a time, and when they are complete, I will
> > release a new version.
> >
> > The difference is that I will have more time to review the new code that
> > is being contributed, and will be able to devote more time to a smaller
> > number of projects (1.38 had too many new features for me to handle
> > correctly).
> >
> > I expect that future release schedules will be much the same, and the
> > number of new features will also be much the same providing that the
> > contributions continue to come -- and they show no signs of let up :-)
>
> I'm curious...
>
> > Feature requests -- RFCs:
> > In addition, I would like to "formalize" the feature requests (RFC) a
> > bit. Instead of me maintaining an informal list of everything I run into
> > (kernstodo), I would like to maintain a "formal" list of projects. This
> > means that all new feature requests, including those recently discussed
> > on the email lists, must be formally submitted and approved.
>
> This sounds good. Seeing how many ideas are presented in the mailing
> lists, some sort of management seems necessary. Doing everything at the
> same time usually doesn't work, and perhaps a more formalized way to
> submit ideas and select what to implement ties people closer into the
> development. I only hope that not too many people feel that the
> suggested way to discuss new features is overly bureaucratic... some
> surely will, but that's life.
>
> > Formal submission of feature requests will take two forms: 1.
> > non-mandatory, but highly recommended is to discuss proposed new features
> > on the mailing list. 2. Formal submission of an RFC in a special format.
> > I'll give an example of this below, but you can also find it on the web
> > site under "Support -> Feature Requests". Since it takes a bit of time
> > to properly fill out a RFC form, you probably should check on the email
> > list first.
>
> Especially considering that the list users as a whole know a lot about
> how Bacula works, and what can be done and, more important, can't be
> done with it's design this is a good idea.
>
> ...
>
> > Once users have had several weeks to submit RFCs, I will organize them,
> > and request users to vote on them. This will allow fixing prioritizing
> > the RFCs. Having a priority is one thing, but getting it implement is
> > another thing -- I am hoping that the Bacula community will take more
> > responsibility for assuring the implementation of accepted RFCs.
>
> So, why do we vote and priorize? Wouldn't it be more helpful to publish
> a list of projects, together with information about the curent state of
> discussion concerning them, and heve interested developers pich what
> they want to implement?
>
> I think that, since we need people to implement things, it's not the
> best idea to say "we want this. Volunteers step forward" but rather help
> people find interesting things to develop.
>
> Of course the opposite could be true, too: That people already involved
> in the Bacula project are more likely to implement something they see
> the need for than simply select what they think could be fun to do.
>
> Hard to say...
>
> ...
>
> > Your comments on this would be welcome -- as well as your RFCs.
>
> Well, you've got my comments, and you will get more suggestions :-)
>
> Arno
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Kern
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