>>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:59:10 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>>> said:

  Geir> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 10:50 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen wrote:
  >> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:36 +0000, Martin Simmons wrote:
  >> > >>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:12:19 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen
  >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 19:52 +0000, Martin Simmons wrote:
  >> >   >> >>>>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen
  >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted
  >> before
  >> >   Geir> the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the
  >> specific
  >> >   Geir> volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where
  >> the files
  >> >   Geir> are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on
  >> the
  >> >   Geir> volume).
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take
  >> incremental  backup
  >> >   Geir> to disk every working day, but once a month we take full
  >> backup to tape.
  >> >   Geir> So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes
  >> stored for a
  >> >   Geir> year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all
  >> future. The
  >> >   Geir> consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to
  >> something
  >> >   Geir> like "for all times"!?!
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ...
  >> but form
  >> >   Geir> time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if
  >> job
  >> >   Geir> retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on
  >> disk as
  >> >   Geir> well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace.
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files
  >> older then one
  >> >   Geir> month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the
  >> database)?
  >> >   Geir> Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job
  >> retention to
  >> >   Geir> 99 years do the trick? Or will that just F****P everything?
  >> >
  >> >   >> Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk
  >> volumes to
  >> >   >> something like 60 days?  That will override the longer Job
  >> Retention and allow
  >> >   >> the disk volumes to be recycled.
  >> >
  >> >   Geir> Yes, I have considered that, but is that the way it work? Does
  >> Volume
  >> >   Geir> Retention override Job Retention?
  >> >
  >> > Yes (and the File Retention).  The manual describes this in more
  >> detail.
  >> Hurray ... this solves the problem (maybe I have to buy glasses? Or drik
  >> mor coffee?)
  Geir> Hmm ... now I have a:

  Geir> Volume Use Duration = 10 min
  Geir> File Retention = 30 min
  Geir> Job Retention = 2 h
  Geir> Volume Retention = 30 min

  Geir> Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4
  Geir> volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the
  Geir> "list jobs" in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my
  Geir> month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to
  Geir> restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the
  Geir> volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how
  Geir> I can do this ...

Use a Volume Retention of 12 months for the month-tapes tape volumes and 1
month for the disk volumes.  For the year-tape volume, you can set its
retention to 99 years if you want to keep it in the pool forever.

__Martin


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