> On Monday 26 June 2006 11:12, user100 wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is anybody running bacula-fd on machines that run Redhat 
> 7.3? I´m afraid
> > UTF8 was not the standard all the time on Unix Systems and 
> changing to UTF8
> > is not as easy as specifying another "LANG" variable in 
> /etc/sysconfig/i18n
> > on older systems. We use a machine with 
> LANG=en_US.iso885915 (RH7.3) that
> > carry about ~190 GB data (for the moment) and is not so 
> less used from
> > different users (so searching and "hot" renaming all 
> depending filenames
> > would be...). There are older systems which may run older 
> Redhat, and AIX
> > 4.3 (LANG=en_US) too. If somebody is running bacula on RH 
> 7.3 or AIX 4.3
> > and have an idea on howto handle Non-UTF8 data on this 
> system please tell
> > me too.
> >
> > Are there other problems except the "empty folder problem" 
> in wxconsole
> > (Restore mode) caused by Non-UTF8 database entries - that 
> would be caused
> > by Non-UTF8 data?. I would be happy if at least wxconsole 
> put some message
> > out (crap-filenames or a warning) - to avoid stress if 
> something important
> > should be restored and it seems the hole folder (!) was not 
> backed up (but
> > I hope something is still backed up every time). We use bacula on
> > windows-machines too and got NO problems there (even with 
> "Umlauts") - so
> > for the moment I think that older Windows (NT4) systems are 
> making less
> > problems than older Linux systems...
> 
> Try using bconsole for restores.  It probably will at least 
> display the 
> filenames as you see them, though input may be a bit difficult.
> 

> By the way, UTF-8 is a superset of US ASCII codes so as long 
> as your filenames 
> are ASCII you really should not have problems.  

:) - I´m afraid renaming all filenames to fit in the US ASCII section inside
UTF-8 is no solution (for us).


> If you are  using a different 
> code page and non-ASCII characters, then you will have 
> problems if not using 
> UTF-8.

Which problems? I know the problems in "wxconsole". Do you know more
problems depending on UTF-8?


> 
> I am sure you are aware that it is not the quantity of data 
> that is important 
> but the number of file/directory names that contain non-ASCII 
> characters that 
> were created under the "old" code page schemes before UTF-8.
> 
> Windows has its own set of problems that are equally bad, but 
> at least should 
> be resolved with later systems and Bacula 1.38.x and later.
> 

Ok sounds fair! ;) - I don´t mean that windows run without any problem
(moving data to somewhere does not update the timestamp - we can workaround
about this with setting a new timestemp to all files with archive flag). But
I have noticed no problems with filenames and we use also "german Umlauts" -
do you think there are problems with UTF8 too (WinNT)?


> A careful examination of the characters in your code page 
> (885915 I never 
> heard of that) might allow you to make one giant sweep 

I think 8859-15 was not used rarely. I subscibed today and read also a mail
from another that used it (luck?). Putty calls it: ISO-8859-15:1999
(Latin-9, "euro")


> through all your 
> filenames and convert them to UTF-8 -- however, before doing 
> so, you should 
> test carefully to ensure that all the software you use 
> handles UTF-8 or 
> switch to using only ASCII names.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> 
> Kern
> 
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> 


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