> "We did not leave anything out of this Book, then all will be gathered
> before their Lord [for judgement]. (Qur'an 6:38)"
> This statement emphasizes that the gathering of the Lord will come about
> after the revelation of this Book, the Qur'an. This verse is in complete
> harmony with Baha'i view, and supports the stations of the Bab and
> Baha'u'llah.
G: I don't think it gives positive support, they aren't even mentioned or
implied. And in order to harmonize it you have to qualify "anything"
to a certain degree.J: There is no need to mention them directly in this verse, since their merit stands on their Own persons and their Own writings. They have reproduced texts equal to the Revelation of the Qur'an. Let me ask you, what is the proof that Muhammad is the Prophet of God? Is there specific reference in the Bible? No. The same criteria is used about the Bab and Baha'u'llah.
G: I agree that people aren't always prepared to hear what God is saying.
that is true. But what I'm saying is that those truths actually *are*
in the Quran in some form. It's not left out. In particular, because
the Quran itself says "We did not leave anything out of this Book"J: Can you see that this is the same logic Christians use to reject Muhammad.
G: In the Bahai understanding aren't there several "Days of the Lord"?J: Yes, there are, but the people were not prepared to hear it, so it was not explained in the Qur'an. This idea was explain in this day when the people where gathered before their Lord, the Bab.
G: It seems weird. If judgement day is an event in ordinary human history
such that it was possible for most of the world to live through with
most people not even having an inkling that it was happening, is that
kind of odd? Are people "paid back" for their sins now, then at any
other time in history?J: That is the explanation, and it is weird. This was not explained in the Qur'an because the people would not be able to understand or believe it. It seems you don't understand or believe it, so I can see the Bab's point first hand. :) .But, the Bab says that in this day the people finally have the potential to understand this spiritual truth.
"When the Apostle of God [Muhammad] appeared, He did not announce unto the unbelievers that the Resurrection had come, FOR THEY COULD NOT BEAR IT. Had they heard, they would not have believed." The Bayan 8:9
G: That would be the Bab's claim. That would be convincing evidence to a
Babi or a Bahai but not a Muslim.J: Just as the explanations you give about the perfection of the Qur'an are convincing evidence for the Muslim but not the Christian and Jew.
G: How, in your opinion, did Muslims get the station of Muhammad wrong?
J: "This Day is indeed an infinitely might Day, for in it the Divine Tree proclaimeth from eternity unto eternity, 'Verily, I am God. No God is there but Me.' " The Bayan 8:9J: Prophet Muhammad does have the legitimacy to proclaim: ' Verily, I am God. No God is there but Me.'
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