On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:43:05 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 1/21/2005 9:40:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:10:16 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 12/25/2004 1:20:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I think I would define "H.ikmat" a trifle differently in a Bahá'í reference. > Perhaps Susan or Khazeh could offer a better definition? Susan: > Not promote or defend but sometimes to protect. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What is the distinction you are making between "protecting" and "defending"? > Dear Gilberto, Susan: > "Defending" could be nothing more than apologetics. I could actually say the same about jihad then. There is a hadith which states: ""The best jihad is speaking the truth to an unjust ruler." Susan: > I'm talking about what > could be life and death matters. Gilberto: > "And could "protecting" the faith include military action?" > > No. Gilberto: Now, what you are saying is sounding more confused. Here's the clearest way I can think of "asking" the question: Which specific actions (uses of force) were permitted by God under the dispensation of Muhammad, but which are clearly, absolutely, categorically prohibited under the dispensation of Bahaullah; prohibited under "righteous warfare", prohibited under collective security, prohibited even using "hikmat"? Peace Gilberto "My people are hydroponic" __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu