On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:29:14 -0800 (PST), JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

JS:
> So the question is, what in the world does
> Baha'u'llah mean here?  
> 
> What are your ideas?  HERE ARE MINE:
> 
> Although the Manifestation of God is not the same thing as the invisible,
> inaccessible, unknowable Essence, true belief in tawhid is dependent on
> accepting the Manifestation as God's PERFECT Representative.  It is
> recognition of the idea that the Manifestation perfectly represents God on
> earth.  
> 
> The Manifestation's Will is God's Will, 
> the Manifestation's speech is God's speech, 
> the Manifestation's laws are God's Laws, 
> the Manifestation's declarations are God's declarations, 
> without exception, without doubt, and without depreciation.  
> Rejection of the Manifestation's laws is rejection of God's Laws,
> rejection of the Manifestation's command is rejection of God's Command,
> rejection of the Manifestation's will is rejection of God's Will,
> rejection of the Manifestation's authority is rejection of God's Authority,
> rejection of the Manifestation's oneness is rejection of God's Oneness.

I could see that, but just from my perspective it makes more sense to
describe that kind of relation by saying that Muhammad (saaws) was a
perfect servant of Allah. That's why Abdullah (slave of Allah) is
actually one Muhammad's most noble titles.

I don't find it illuinating or useful to reverse it and use exalted
language on a regular basis .That's  part of why Christianity didn't
sit well with me.


Peace

Gilberto

> "pharaoh is just a leaf on a burning bush"

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