On 7/19/05, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think botht of them are actually still more > concrete, more literally true, more supportable than the Bahai claims > about "I am the prophets". > Dear Gilberto, > I don't see the difference. While Muslims may have associated the verses > regarding the Paraclete with Muhammad the word "Ahmad" does not appear > there.
Just as Jesus (as) didn't really say "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and Muhammad (Saaws) didn't really say "There is no god but God". In other words, because we are talking about two different languages. But the meaning of "Ahmad" is the same as the meaning "Pericletos" (praised) and in any case Jesus probably spoke in Aramaic anyway. So apart from the fact that different languages are involved. Jesus really did literally say that Ahmad would come after him. (And Bahai writings actually agree about this point) http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/LANZ/lanz-32.html >From Shoghi Effendi No. 7. References in the Bible to "Mt. Paran" and "Paraclete" refer to Muhammad's Revelation. http://www.entrybytroops.org/revelation10.html The Christians of today are like the Jews who didn't recognize Jesus as their Messiah, and they are like the Christians of the past who didn't recognize Muhammad as the Comforter (Paraclete) of John 14. The original word was "Ahmad" and it was translated as "comforter." This was a prophecy for Muhammad. Likewise, the Muslims didn't recognize the Bab and Baha'u'llah, because of the indoctrination of their clergy. Peace Gilberto The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
