Re: Devastating stampede

[Rich Ater]

The answer is "yes" and "no". They are not considered Baha`i's by the administrative order. In that sense the administrative order does not define them as Baha`i's. This is to their advantage, since if they were considered and defined as "covenant breakers", this might cause hardship to friends and family who would then have to consider them covenant-breakers.   As to what they consider themselves, the administrative order has "naught to say". They can call themselves Baha`i all they wish, I say "okay" but they are not Baha`i's in good standing or any standing at all. See they define themselves one way - to do so they have a perfect right. I consider them another way, and I have a perfect right.   Scott,     I can accept this. I guess from my perspective, what they consider themselves isn't that important to me. They can consider themselves stiped oppossums for all I care. My concern was with what the Baha'i Community considers them. What what I'm hearing the community says they are not Baha'is, I'm reminded of the story of the guy who moved to Maine and was telling an old timer that he had lived in Maine for twenty years and all his kids had been born in Maine so surely they were Maine natives. The old timer replied, " My cat hed kittens in the oven, that don't make them a casserole." Rich     The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you.     __________________________________________________   You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu