> "So was the Guardian wrong when he said this." Susan: > Dear Gilberto, > There is your absolutist thinking again.
On 10/17/05, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gilberto: > I think you are mischaracterizing what I'm saying. I'm certainly > capable and willing to make fine nuanced distinctions about issues > like this. The above, in particular was a question, not a dogmatic > absolutist claim. [For clarity, Susan accused me of "absolutist" thinking] > > Dear Gilberto, > > Questions are usually denoted by a "?" > It was an honest typo on my part but what I said doesn't read as a declarative sentence. Susan: > My objection was to your tendency to take to extremes what others are saying > which go far beyond their intention. > I think that sometimes in this forum, people make assertions but don't always appreciate the logical consequences of those assertions. I often appreciate (but perhaps don't always say) that people have good intentions when they are speaking, but that doesn't change the logical consequences of their words. > > The letter written on the > > Guardian's behalf (not in his own words) was making the point that where > the > > Bible and the Qur'an differed the Qur'an had authority because it > > represented the Manifestation's own words, unlike the Bible. > That's one interepretation." > Well, if you have some special insight into the Guardian's intentions which > would contradict this please share them with us. > All I'm saying is that what you wrote above is just a particular interpretation. It doesn't seem to be based on a close reading of the Guardian's words. And personally it doesn't strike me as natural. The passages we have been quoting over and over say that the Quran and the Bahai writings are "absolutely authentic" while expressing certain hesitancy when it comes to the authenticity of the Bible. I would suggest that if the writings say that the Quran is wholly authentic or absolutely authentic then that would mean that the Quran used by sunnis and shias (the Uthmanic recension) is the authentic Quran. And so if there were variant texts like Yemenite fragments which Scott was alluding to, then they would not be the absolutely authentic Quran. Peace Gilberto The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu