On 10/23/05, Hajir Moghaddam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good morning,

Good morning : )

Gilberto:
> > I haven't seen any evidence. I've seen Bahai attempts at explaining
> > the Quran in a non-mainstream way, but that's all. The Bahai
> > interpretations aren't particularly compelling to me.

Hajir:
> Its interesting, because I have not been convinced that your way of looking
> at it is all that compelling either.

Gilberto:
I'm not trying to convert you.

Hajir:
>  Maybe part of the problem with your
> explanations (which to me lack clarity anyway) is that they are not all that
> well thought-out in the *right way*.  I suggest, for you message to come
> across better and more convincing, that you read more writings of
> Baha'u'llah and understand them the way we understand them.

I have spent a chunk of time in this forum and soc.religion.bahai
trying to better understand the Bahai faith.

> Then, you should read from the writings of Abdu'l-Baha, Shoghi Effendi, and
> understand them the way we understand them.  Then, you can base your
> arguments off legitimate Baha'i point-of-view.

Gilberto:
I might just take you up on that. I"m curious though. Do you think it
is possible to understand a religious text without believing in it?

Hajir:
> A basic Baha'i principle is Progressive Revelation, but you have not been
> able to articulate what the Baha'i view of this principle really is.  Your
> arguments against Progressive Revelation don't come across because you are
> basing your arguments off of an interpretation of "Progressive Revelation"
> that Baha'is ourselves don't accept or believe in ourselves .

Gilberto:
Are there specific misstatements, lies, errors, omissions, you can
point to which I have made in talking about Progressive Revelation?

Hajir:
> Another basic Baha'i principle is oneness of Religions, but you have not
> been able to articualte this either, & your arguments against our view don't
> come across because you aren't arguing *against* our view of it anyway, you
> are arguing against a hypothetical concept of oneness of religions that we
> don't accept ourselves.

Gilberto:
I honestly don't remember addressing the idea of "oneness of
religions" at all very recently. I wonder what you are refering to.
And again, I wonder if you have specific, misstatements, lies, errors,
omissions in mind?

Peace

Gilberto


 
 
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