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From: Gilberto Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jul 9, 2006 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: delivering wives in Bible texts
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/9/06, Richard H. Gravelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But do you understand why it seems weird?
I believe I answered this question on the other list Gilberto.
Actually, since you bring it up, it really wasn't cool to move the
discussion with my name attached from the e-mail list to usenet.
Luckily for me I see both forums as e-mails, but even so, you
shouldn't have done it.
Allow me
however to add that as we know God only through His Manifestation of
Himself; and that Point is the Person of the Manifestation, i.e. that
physical being is the Point of the Revelation of God.
"Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: "I am
God,"
He, verily, speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto.
There have been Muslim saints who engage in a certain poetic license
and have made similar statements but there are certain qualifications
put on such statements.
For it hath
been repeatedly demonstrated that through their Revelation, their
attributes
and names, the Revelation of God, His names and His attributes, are
made
manifest in the world.
Yes, the above is the part which really sounds like shirk.
Thus, He hath revealed: "Those shafts were God's,
not
Thine." And also He saith: "In truth, they who plighted fealty unto Thee,
really plighted that fealty unto God." (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the
Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 54)
Yes, but Muslims are more reserved in how those passages of the Quran
are read. Especially given the overwhelming emphasis on avoiding shirk
and idolatry, especially in the case of its criticisms of Christian
attitudes towards Jesus.
> But even before Muhammad and the revelation of the Quran,
> Christianity
> already had a sophisticated theology which tried to bring together
> Jesus' humanity and divinity. How is the Bahai view any different from
> what Christians already teach about Jesus?
One must Gilberto, always distinguish between the theology presented by man
and the Revelation presented through the Manifestation.
I'm not sure if you understood my point. You had claimed that Islam
emphasized Muhammad's humanity because people weren't yet ready to
understand the dual notion of humanity/divinity combined which is
found in the Bahai faith. But hundreds of years before Muhammad,
Christian theologians already had similar ideas so it doesn't make
sense to claim that people weren't ready.
-G
--
"There are no poets"
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