sir, my very sincere apoliogies, and a sincere assurance that there is no patronisation, no deamning, no anything other than respect for ur pov in paying attentiuon to the fact that ur cv seems to have a math flavour. :"I really think you should let the other participants of the thread speak for themselves" it wouild be difficult to stop someone from speaking for themselves. on the other hand, there is speaking for one self, and there is speaking in the hopes of establishing some common ground where hearing can occur. :" don't think that it makes sense for you to grab some phrases from a completely different conversation, rip them from their context, and respond to things I'm not sure that any of the previous participanats intended. " and thank you for making my point: how there came to be any appearance of disunity in what Text of any Dispensation Says about the crucifiction or isaac or ishmael.
:"restricted situations where I'd be willing to go along with a pragmatic notion of truth." my dim recall of the scientific method is that there is no other. :"The true nature of the crucifixion isn't something which can be setlled by the behavior of Christians 2000 years later." not what i said. at alll. what i was aiming towards was that the Qu'ran Affirms that Underlying Form is in the Bible, and points tio persons making correct use of Said Forms. :"If you are really trying to communicate something you should put a little work into saying how you think this analogy applies to the conversation at hand." thank you for for rejecting the idea based on some perceived failure in me. :":"I think it is more faithful and more > appropriate to draw the line between appearance/reality. > imho that's a false taxonomy. How?" in that reality is >>observed<< through one sense or another, magnified by technology or not, and the observation of anything requires its "appearance". :"My comment about appearance/reality was specifically about understanding the crucifixion from an Islamic perspective. " yes. and as pointed out, the term "Islamic perspective" does not refer to a singularity but is the name of the set of a very large number of perspectives all of which have in common acknowledgement of Muhammed, and may have little else shared. :"I also don't think that Euclidean vs. non-Euclidean geometry is an issue of appearance vs. reality in the way you seem to be taking it." heard. imho "when" something is "true" and "where" it is true are closely related. imho the Text is replete with examples of perspectives only being true "when" or "where". The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu